On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 02:04 -0500, Adrian Walker wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>
> You wrote:
>
> "Communication between computer programs is under completely different
> constraints...."
> (01)
No, I didn't write that, McDermott did. I included it in the quote for
the contrast with the previous paragraph. His ensuing paragraph, which I
didn't quote, goes into a bit more detail about the differences. (02)
>
> Agreed. But step back a moment and look at the whole picture. If
> people cannot understand the communications between programs, then
> errors of design or coding (or simply an unforseen circumstance) can
> quickly wreak havoc.
> (03)
Certainly for the human interface portion of systems, but certainly not
for inter- and intra-program communication. Only software engineers must
understand the latter, and their job is not to screw it up, and they
have (or should have) tools and practices to handle the important names
they use. (04)
One of McDermott's themes in this article was that naming things in your
program (or ontology) with "meaningful" terms from your favorite
"natural" language doesn't make them so--certainly not to the computer,
and only partially (and unpredictably) will they mean what you intend to
your human readers, as he explained in the first paragraph I quoted. (05)
Regards,
--Paul (06)
>
> Slides 4-7 of
>
> www.reengineeringllc.com/WikiSOA.pdf
>
>
> illustrate this, and suggest a mitigation.
>
>
> -- Adrian
>
> Internet Business Logic
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>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Paul Tyson <phtyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> Tim, thanks for this gem. It should be required reading for
> everyone
> working in ontologies or semantics. While it is packed with
> quotable
> bits, this chunk is especially pertinent. (Hint: substitute
> "ontology
> designer" for "language speaker").
>
> "Language is only occasionally a medium of communication of
> information;
> even when it is, the ratio of information to packaging is low.
> The
> problem of a language speaker is to get the directed attention
> of an
> unprepared hearer and slide some information into his mind in
> a very
> short time. Since the major time sink is moving his mouth, the
> language
> sacrifices everything else to brevity, forcing the hearer to
> do much
> quick thinking to compensate. Furthermore, since the speaker
> doesn't
> quite know the organization of his hearer's mind, his phrasing
> of
> information and packaging must, except for the most
> stereotyped
> conversations, be an artwork of suggestiveness and insight.
> "Communication between computer programs is under completely
> different
> constraints...."
>
> Regards,
> --Paul
>
> On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:50 -0500, Tim Finin wrote:
> > The discussion of the symbols we use for namespaces reminds
> me of this
> > classic from nearly 40 years ago.
> >
> > McDermott, Drew. "Artificial intelligence meets natural
> stupidity." ACM
> > SIGART Bulletin 57 (1976): 4-9.
> >
>
>http://homepage.univie.ac.at/nicole.rossmanith/concepts/papers/mcdermott1976artificial.pdf
> >
>
> >
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