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From: Nicola Guarino <guarino@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 18:28:16 +0200
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Indeed, the slides Tom Gruber presented (in particular, the one on semantic 
autocompletion) are an excellent example of the integration of NL techniques 
and ontology.    (01)

Nicola    (02)

On 7 Apr 2011, at 18:13, Michael F Uschold wrote:    (03)

> Sorry, I may have replied to wrong message. I meant that SIRI using 
>ontologies was good news.
> 
> Michael 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> I have to confess I don't wholly understand your query here.
> 
> What is good news? The two paragraphs? The claims in the paragraphs? That I 
>liked the direction of Matt and Mike's suggestions?
> 
> Regarding the simple story -- I thought John provides a pretty good one in 
>terms of the work he's done at VivoMind -- specifically the story about how 
>two knowledge engineers went in, analyzed legacy software systems, cross 
>referenced it with other written documentation and provided a view of what was 
>going on to the managers. Piece meal right now, but on the path to the vision 
>outlined in the paragraphs.
> 
> Another example, might be the work Matthew W did with Shell, though I don't 
>know the details well enough.
> 
> I presume the paragraph and diagram you ask for have to do with the story 
>that demonstrate the claims.
> 
> Otherwise, could you clarify what you meant? Or perhaps you were replying to 
>another email? :D
> 
> Thanks,
> Ali
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Michael F Uschold <uschold@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> That is good news. Is their a clear simple story to tell about how the 
>ontology was a critical piece of the infrastructure?  A paragraph or two with 
>a digaram or two?  If we can make this work, it will be great - due to its 
>high profile. 
> 
> Michael 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> 
> 
> I liked the direction that Matthew W and Mike B’s contributions pointed 
>towards. Here’s a rough draft which is a variation on the aforementioned 
>themes employing a slight deviation from the skeleton John Sowa proposed 
>above. The phrasing needs to be refined, but it might be a start:
> 
>  
> Every person, organization or system in interacting with the world access (at 
>the very least) an internal ontology – the things presumed to exist in the 
>world and how they behave. Indeed, these very assumptions pervade and underpin 
>our deliberations, inform our decisions and ultimately guide our actions. In 
>large socio-technical systems, such as companies or organizations, each 
>person, each technological artefact and system carries with it their own view 
>of the relevant world. Reconciling and streamlining these fragments\, means 
>understanding and reconciling the employed, often tacit ontologies.
>  
> Growing complexity and a need for smarter use of resources and solutions that 
>cut across silos, means that it has become ever important to make explicit 
>these implicit ontologies.
> Concurrently, advances in computing, networking technologies and the Internet 
>means that it is possible to fruitfully leverage computational ontology to 
>address an increasing array of socio-technical problems. Moreover, in recent 
>years, we have witnessed the increased maturation and transition of ontology 
>from academia to industry and government. The time is ripe to know what you 
>know and share it with others.
>  
> Right now, [[examples of what ppl are doing that demonstrate the above 
>claims...]]
> 
> Best,
> Ali 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Or to put this another way, your systems all have ontologies
> anyway, but how are you managing these? And did you know that
> with formal management of ontologies comes a wealth of new
> opportunities for what you can do with your information assets?
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 07/04/2011 07:16, Matthew West wrote:
> > Dear John,
> >
> > How about something like:
> >
> > Ontology is like the air we breathe. In information systems it is all around
> > us, but we often do not notice it. However, if there are problems with it
> > can choke us.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matthew West
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> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-
> >> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F. Sowa
> >> Sent: 07 April 2011 06:55
> >> To: Michael F Uschold
> >> Cc: Ontology Summit 2011 discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft
> >> review session - Thu 2011.04.07.
> >>
> >> On 4/7/2011 1:20 AM, Michael F Uschold wrote:
> >>> Did you get a chance to put together the introduction paragraphs?
> >> I'm still working on it.
> >>
> >> As you may have noticed, I can write 3 paragraphs very quickly in
> >> response to an email note.  But trying to think of a good "hook"
> >> for a title of an article or an opening paragraph of the article
> >> is extremely difficult.
> >>
> >> I'll sleep on it.  If I can think of anything when I wake up, I'll
> >> type it up.  But right now, I can't think of what to say.
> >>
> >> Exercise for the readers:
> >>
> >>    1. Can anybody think of some idea that would really grab the readers'
> >>       attention -- i.e., the readers we want to reach.
> >>
> >>    2. It's not necessary to phrase that idea in a catchy way.  The first
> >>       thing that comes to mind is rarely a good hook, but it can be a
> >>       starting point to start the thinking process.
> >>
> >>    3. The second paragraph should be the "anecdote", which develops the
> >>       idea.  That could consist of one or more examples of promising
> >>       applications for ontology, along the lines we discussed in our
> >>       previous telecon.
> >>
> >>    4. Then the third paragraph generalizes the examples into a principle
> >>       that could be applied to many things similar to the ones given
> >>       in the anecdote(s).
> >>
> >> Notice that I just wrote up the material in this note very quickly.
> >> That is because I was talking about something that I had thought
> >> about years ago.
> >>
> >> But as I said in earlier telecons, my mind is a blank when it comes
> >> to selling ontology.  I can write pages and pages *about* ontology,
> >> but I don't really know how to sell it.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
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