Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review sess

[Michael F Uschold <uschold@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry, I may have replied to wrong message. I meant that SIRI using ontologies was good news.

Michael 

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Michael,

I have to confess I don't wholly understand your query here.

What is good news? The two paragraphs? The claims in the paragraphs? That I liked the direction of Matt and Mike's suggestions?

Regarding the simple story -- I thought John provides a pretty good one in terms of the work he's done at VivoMind -- specifically the story about how two knowledge engineers went in, analyzed legacy software systems, cross referenced it with other written documentation and provided a view of what was going on to the managers. Piece meal right now, but on the path to the vision outlined in the paragraphs.

Another example, might be the work Matthew W did with Shell, though I don't know the details well enough.

I presume the paragraph and diagram you ask for have to do with the story that demonstrate the claims.

Otherwise, could you clarify what you meant? Or perhaps you were replying to another email? :D

Thanks,

Ali

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Michael F Uschold <uschold@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That is good news. Is their a clear simple story to tell about how the ontology was a critical piece of the infrastructure?  A paragraph or two with a digaram or two?  If we can make this work, it will be great - due to its high profile. 

Michael 

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear All,

I liked the direction that Matthew W and Mike B’s contributions pointed towards. Here’s a rough draft which is a variation on the aforementioned themes employing a slight deviation from the skeleton John Sowa proposed above. The phrasing needs to be refined, but it might be a start:

 

Every person, organization or system in interacting with the world access (at the very least) an internal ontology – the things presumed to exist in the world and how they behave. Indeed, these very assumptions pervade and underpin our deliberations, inform our decisions and ultimately guide our actions. In large socio-technical systems, such as companies or organizations, each person, each technological artefact and system carries with it their own view of the relevant world. Reconciling and streamlining these fragments\, means understanding and reconciling the employed, often tacit ontologies.
 
Growing complexity and a need for smarter use of resources and solutions that cut across silos, means that it has become ever important to make explicit these implicit ontologies.
Concurrently, advances in computing, networking technologies and the Internet means that it is possible to fruitfully leverage computational ontology to address an increasing array of socio-technical problems. Moreover, in recent years, we have witnessed the increased maturation and transition of ontology from academia to industry and government. The time is ripe to know what you know and share it with others.
 
Right now, [[examples of what ppl are doing that demonstrate the above claims...]]

Best,

Ali 

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Or to put this another way, your systems all have ontologies
anyway, but how are you managing these? And did you know that
with formal management of ontologies comes a wealth of new
opportunities for what you can do with your information assets?

Mike

On 07/04/2011 07:16, Matthew West wrote:
> Dear John,
>
> How about something like:
>
> Ontology is like the air we breathe. In information systems it is all around
> us, but we often do not notice it. However, if there are problems with it
> can choke us.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-
>> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F. Sowa
>> Sent: 07 April 2011 06:55
>> To: Michael F Uschold
>> Cc: Ontology Summit 2011 discussion
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft
>> review session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>
>> On 4/7/2011 1:20 AM, Michael F Uschold wrote:
>>> Did you get a chance to put together the introduction paragraphs?
>> I'm still working on it.
>>
>> As you may have noticed, I can write 3 paragraphs very quickly in
>> response to an email note.  But trying to think of a good "hook"
>> for a title of an article or an opening paragraph of the article
>> is extremely difficult.
>>
>> I'll sleep on it.  If I can think of anything when I wake up, I'll
>> type it up.  But right now, I can't think of what to say.
>>
>> Exercise for the readers:
>>
>>    1. Can anybody think of some idea that would really grab the readers'
>>       attention -- i.e., the readers we want to reach.
>>
>>    2. It's not necessary to phrase that idea in a catchy way.  The first
>>       thing that comes to mind is rarely a good hook, but it can be a
>>       starting point to start the thinking process.
>>
>>    3. The second paragraph should be the "anecdote", which develops the
>>       idea.  That could consist of one or more examples of promising
>>       applications for ontology, along the lines we discussed in our
>>       previous telecon.
>>
>>    4. Then the third paragraph generalizes the examples into a principle
>>       that could be applied to many things similar to the ones given
>>       in the anecdote(s).
>>
>> Notice that I just wrote up the material in this note very quickly.
>> That is because I was talking about something that I had thought
>> about years ago.
>>
>> But as I said in earlier telecons, my mind is a blank when it comes
>> to selling ontology.  I can write pages and pages *about* ontology,
>> but I don't really know how to sell it.
>>
>> John
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