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Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2007 Survey

To: "Ontology Summit 2007 Forum" <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:58:15 +0700
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HI Peter
I must have missed all the discussions regarding the survey then (not
sure how, I am subscribed to this list?) but never mind - good start
and lets move on
I am compiling it as we speak
thanks to you
PDM    (01)

On 3/18/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> While I was mainly responsible for putting the survey together, the
> process has been transparent (especially for those who are following
> the Ontology Summit development.)
>
> I believe the goals of the survey has been very clearly stated at the
> beginning of the survey, which is consistent with the objective of
> "Ontology Summit 2007" (see details at:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007).
>
> While guidance on "Ontology Summit 2007" has been provided by the
> Ontology Summit 2007 organizing committee, community collaboration on
> this initiative has been conducted through the [ontology-summit]
> mailing list, the wiki (see link above) and synchronous conference
> calls (see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007#nidSL7)
>
> This survey, again, is specific to the "Ontology Summit 2007"
> objective (and not likely to be re-done in the future.)  However, we
> obviously might survey the community again in the future. And on that
> opportunity, I shall look forward to your volunteered support.
>
> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> --
>
>
> On 3/17/07, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > thanks a lot for getting this started, and for the extensive explanation
> >
> >  I wonder what criteria have been used to compile the survey? How has
> > it been put together? By whom? When?
> >
> >  I have not seen any discussion regarding the survey, not even in the
> > summit list (you invited me to participate in the organisation of the
> > summit, remember?yet I have not heard from you since...)
> >
> > It comes as a surprise that the community has not been consulted to
> > provide an early input to make sure it has the most impact. A user
> > survey may well more long term goals than just the summit for example,
> > and the survey design will directly impact the validity and robustness
> > of the data it gathers. Some of us may well be experts at this (me
> > know only a bit)
> >
> > I would start stating the goals of the survey, what exactly are we trying to
> > find out? The we can work out the right questions together.
> >
> > I am sure a few people will be able to make suggestions
> > Let us know how can we help to evolve it in the future
> >
> > Paola Di Maio
> >
> > On 3/18/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Thank you for the feedback, Michael. ... Let me attempt to provide a few
> > > examples (3 blocks from question 4) below:
> > >
> > > //
> > >
> > > 4.   In this section, we provide 8 sub-sections (one for each "term" or
> > > "artifiact"), where  we seek you input on:
> > >
> > >     * (A)   what you (or members of your constituency) mean when you use 
>the
> > > term "ontology" or other ontology-related terms (such as "taxonomy",
> > > "schema", "tag cloud") that are commonly used in your community;
> > >     * (B)   representative ontology or ontology-related artifacts (such as
> > > "BFO", "PSL", "Dublin Core", "Gene Ontology", "NCI Thesaurus", "WordNet",
> > > "FOAF", " deli.cio.us tag cloud" , ... etc.) which you can enter
> > > independently or as a representative example of a "term"; and
> > >     * (C)  any additional remarks about the cited "artifact" (or
> > > implementations of  the cited "term"), for example, how it is used (for:
> > > Information integration, Classification, Reasoning, Indexing/Retrieval, 
>Data
> > > exchange, ... etc.), issues encountered, improvement wish list, etc.
> > >
> > > 4aGlossary. Ontology-related 'vocabulary' and representative 'artifact' 
>from
> > > your constituency or community:
> > >
> > >     (A.1) Term - ontology
> > >     (A.2) Gloss / definition - An ontology is a specification of a
> > > conceptualization (Tom Gruber)
> > >     (A.3) Reference (citation/url) -
> > > http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/kst/what-is-an-ontology.html
> > >     (B.1) Artifact (name/version)
> > >     (B.2) - Artifact Ref. (url)
> > >
> > > 4a1CalledAnOntology. On a scale of 1 to 5, (where 1 means totally unlikely
> > > and 5 means almost always), would the above term or artifact be referred 
>to
> > > as an "ontology" in your community?
> > >
> > >     1 - totally unlikely
> > >     2 - rarely
> > >     3 - sometimes
> > >     4 - quite often
> > >     5 - almost always
> > >
> > > 4a2AdditionalRemarks.  (C)  Please provide additional
> > > remarks on the cited artifact below (how it is applied, issues 
>encountered,
> > > improvement wish list, etc.):
> > >
> > > 4bGlossary. Ontology-related 'vocabulary' and representative 'artifact' 
>from
> > > your constituency or community:
> > >
> > >     Term - upper ontology
> > >     Gloss / definition - An upper ontology is limited to concepts that are
> > > meta, generic, abstract and philosophical, and therefore are general 
>enough
> > > to address (at a high level) a broad range of domain areas. Concepts
> > > specific to given domains will not be included; however, this standard 
>will
> > > provide a structure and a set of general concepts upon which domain
> > > ontologies ( e.g. medical, financial, engineering, etc.) could be
> > > constructed.
> > >     Reference (citation/url) - http://suo.ieee.org/
> > >     Artifact (name/version) - SUMO
> > >     - Artifact Ref. (url) - http://sigma.ontologyportal.or
> > > g:4010/sigma/Browse.jsp?kb=SUMO&lang=en
> > >
> > > 4b1CalledAnOntology. On a scale of 1 to 5, (where 1 means totally unlikely
> > > and 5 means almost always), would the above term or artifact be referred 
>to
> > > as an "ontology" in your community?
> > >
> > >     1 - totally unlikely
> > >     2 - rarely
> > >     3 - sometimes
> > >     4 - quite often
> > >    [5]- almost always
> > >
> > > 4b2AdditionalRemarks.  Please provide additional remarks on the cited
> > > artifact below (how it is applied, issues encountered, improvement wish
> > > list, etc.): - Re: "Upper Ontology", please refer also to
> > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit
> > >
> > > 4cGlossary. Ontology-related 'vocabulary' and representative 'artifact' 
>from
> > > your constituency or community:
> > >
> > >     Term - metadata
> > >     Gloss / definition - data about data
> > >     Reference (citation/url) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M etadata
> > >     Artifact (name/version) - Dublin Core
> > >     - Artifact Ref. (url) - http://dublincore.org/
> > >
> > > 4c1CalledAnOntology. On a scale of 1 to 5, (where 1 means totally unlikely
> > > and 5 means almost always), would the above term or artifact be referred 
>to
> > > as an "ontology" in your community?
> > >
> > >      1 - totally unlikely
> > >     2 - rarely
> > >    [3] - sometimes
> > >     4 - quite often
> > >     5 - almost always
> > >
> > > 4c2AdditionalRemarks.  Please provide additional remarks on the cited
> > > artifact below (how it is applied, issues encountered, improvement wish
> > > list, etc.):
> > >
> > > //
> > >
> > > In addition to the remarks (4. (a), (b) & (c)) at the beginning of the
> > > section, it may be useful for respondants to realize that entries to any
> > > field is optional.
> > >
> > > >  [MU] Is a given individual likley to fill out all 8? Just one or two?
> > >
> > > [ppy]  Probably not all 8 (but we do have one respondant, so far, that
> > > actually did come back with all 8 entries). Anywhere from 1 to 5 is more
> > > likely. ... I actually debated with myself whether to supply 8 block or 5
> > > block prior to putting the survey together. However, I posted a draft for
> > > review (since Feb-15) where I specified 8 block, and I did not get a 
>single
> > > feedback saying we should shorten that. (It's a little too late to change
> > > now, sorry!)
> > >
> > > Hope this help everyone!
> > >
> > > Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/17/07, Uschold, Michael F <michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > I find that the survey is very confusing.
> > > > It took a while to figure out what was being asked for, and I'm still
> > > > not exactly sure.
> > > >
> > > > You need to give an example of a section filled out.
> > > >
> > > > Is a given individual likley to fill out all 8? Just one or two? What
> > > > would be an example of the kinds of entries that one might find.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it's just me... but I find this to be too confusing for me to want
> > > > to forward it to my Boeing colleagues.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ==========================
> > > > Michael Uschold
> > > > M&CT, Phantom Works
> > > > 425 373-2845
> > > > michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > ==========================
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------
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> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:26 AM
> > >  > To: ontolog-invitation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ontology Summit
> > > Forum
> > > > Subject: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2007 Survey
> > > >
> > > > Re: Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Folksonomy:
> > > > Understanding the Distinctions
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As part of the ongoing "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative, we are making
> > > > an attempt to reach out to everyone (in research, applications and
> > > > everything in between) who profess in developing or facilitating the
> > > > evolution of "ontologies" and structures that help model semantics here.
> > > >
> > > > We need your input, from the perspective of your constituency
> > > > (communities or sub-communities that applies the science, art and
> > > > engineering of ontology), telling us what "ontology" and other
> > > > "ontology-related terms" mean to you. We also want you to tell us
> > > >   about representative ontological (or related) artifacts in your
> > > > constituency.
> > > >
> > > > With your input, we hope to clarify what everyone (coming from different
> > > > constituency) mean when they use the term "ontology" or when they refer
> > > > to related semantic structures; and with that, help everyone better
> > > > understand the different types of "ontologies" or "semantic structures"
> > > > that fall broadly within the spectrum. By doing so, the research,
> > > > development and Internet communities would, hopefully, have a better way
> > > > of comparing, combining and mapping ontologies to one another.
> > > >
> > > > I invite you to spend a few minutes and complete the online survey for
> > > > this joint effort. You can find it at:
> > > > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/survey/summit72.html
> > > >
> > > > Your input is very important to the endeavor. Please pass this
> > > > invitation along to colleagues of your who are in a position to provide
> > > > meaningful input on the matter as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.  =ppy
> > > >
> > > > Peter P. Yim, Co-convener, Ontolog
> > > >
> > > > on behalf of the
> > > > Ontology Summit 2007 organizing committee
> > > > --
> > > >
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> > Paola Di Maio
> > School of IT, MFU.ac.th
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