Hi Peter, (01)
thanks a lot for getting this started, and for the extensive explanation (02)
I wonder what criteria have been used to compile the survey? How has
it been put together? By whom? When? (03)
I have not seen any discussion regarding the survey, not even in the
summit list (you invited me to participate in the organisation of the
summit, remember?yet I have not heard from you since...) (04)
It comes as a surprise that the community has not been consulted to
provide an early input to make sure it has the most impact. A user
survey may well more long term goals than just the summit for example,
and the survey design will directly impact the validity and robustness
of the data it gathers. Some of us may well be experts at this (me
know only a bit) (05)
I would start stating the goals of the survey, what exactly are we trying to
find out? The we can work out the right questions together. (06)
I am sure a few people will be able to make suggestions
Let us know how can we help to evolve it in the future (07)
Paola Di Maio (08)
On 3/18/07, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thank you for the feedback, Michael. ... Let me attempt to provide a few
> examples (3 blocks from question 4) below:
>
> //
>
> 4. In this section, we provide 8 sub-sections (one for each "term" or
> "artifiact"), where we seek you input on:
>
> * (A) what you (or members of your constituency) mean when you use the
> term "ontology" or other ontology-related terms (such as "taxonomy",
> "schema", "tag cloud") that are commonly used in your community;
> * (B) representative ontology or ontology-related artifacts (such as
> "BFO", "PSL", "Dublin Core", "Gene Ontology", "NCI Thesaurus", "WordNet",
> "FOAF", " deli.cio.us tag cloud" , ... etc.) which you can enter
> independently or as a representative example of a "term"; and
> * (C) any additional remarks about the cited "artifact" (or
> implementations of the cited "term"), for example, how it is used (for:
> Information integration, Classification, Reasoning, Indexing/Retrieval, Data
> exchange, ... etc.), issues encountered, improvement wish list, etc.
>
> 4aGlossary. Ontology-related 'vocabulary' and representative 'artifact' from
> your constituency or community:
>
> (A.1) Term - ontology
> (A.2) Gloss / definition - An ontology is a specification of a
> conceptualization (Tom Gruber)
> (A.3) Reference (citation/url) -
> http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/kst/what-is-an-ontology.html
> (B.1) Artifact (name/version)
> (B.2) - Artifact Ref. (url)
>
> 4a1CalledAnOntology. On a scale of 1 to 5, (where 1 means totally unlikely
> and 5 means almost always), would the above term or artifact be referred to
> as an "ontology" in your community?
>
> 1 - totally unlikely
> 2 - rarely
> 3 - sometimes
> 4 - quite often
> 5 - almost always
>
> 4a2AdditionalRemarks. (C) Please provide additional
> remarks on the cited artifact below (how it is applied, issues encountered,
> improvement wish list, etc.):
>
> 4bGlossary. Ontology-related 'vocabulary' and representative 'artifact' from
> your constituency or community:
>
> Term - upper ontology
> Gloss / definition - An upper ontology is limited to concepts that are
> meta, generic, abstract and philosophical, and therefore are general enough
> to address (at a high level) a broad range of domain areas. Concepts
> specific to given domains will not be included; however, this standard will
> provide a structure and a set of general concepts upon which domain
> ontologies ( e.g. medical, financial, engineering, etc.) could be
> constructed.
> Reference (citation/url) - http://suo.ieee.org/
> Artifact (name/version) - SUMO
> - Artifact Ref. (url) - http://sigma.ontologyportal.or
> g:4010/sigma/Browse.jsp?kb=SUMO&lang=en
>
> 4b1CalledAnOntology. On a scale of 1 to 5, (where 1 means totally unlikely
> and 5 means almost always), would the above term or artifact be referred to
> as an "ontology" in your community?
>
> 1 - totally unlikely
> 2 - rarely
> 3 - sometimes
> 4 - quite often
> [5]- almost always
>
> 4b2AdditionalRemarks. Please provide additional remarks on the cited
> artifact below (how it is applied, issues encountered, improvement wish
> list, etc.): - Re: "Upper Ontology", please refer also to
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UpperOntologySummit
>
> 4cGlossary. Ontology-related 'vocabulary' and representative 'artifact' from
> your constituency or community:
>
> Term - metadata
> Gloss / definition - data about data
> Reference (citation/url) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M etadata
> Artifact (name/version) - Dublin Core
> - Artifact Ref. (url) - http://dublincore.org/
>
> 4c1CalledAnOntology. On a scale of 1 to 5, (where 1 means totally unlikely
> and 5 means almost always), would the above term or artifact be referred to
> as an "ontology" in your community?
>
> 1 - totally unlikely
> 2 - rarely
> [3] - sometimes
> 4 - quite often
> 5 - almost always
>
> 4c2AdditionalRemarks. Please provide additional remarks on the cited
> artifact below (how it is applied, issues encountered, improvement wish
> list, etc.):
>
> //
>
> In addition to the remarks (4. (a), (b) & (c)) at the beginning of the
> section, it may be useful for respondants to realize that entries to any
> field is optional.
>
> > [MU] Is a given individual likley to fill out all 8? Just one or two?
>
> [ppy] Probably not all 8 (but we do have one respondant, so far, that
> actually did come back with all 8 entries). Anywhere from 1 to 5 is more
> likely. ... I actually debated with myself whether to supply 8 block or 5
> block prior to putting the survey together. However, I posted a draft for
> review (since Feb-15) where I specified 8 block, and I did not get a single
> feedback saying we should shorten that. (It's a little too late to change
> now, sorry!)
>
> Hope this help everyone!
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
>
> On 3/17/07, Uschold, Michael F <michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I find that the survey is very confusing.
> > It took a while to figure out what was being asked for, and I'm still
> > not exactly sure.
> >
> > You need to give an example of a section filled out.
> >
> > Is a given individual likley to fill out all 8? Just one or two? What
> > would be an example of the kinds of entries that one might find.
> >
> > Maybe it's just me... but I find this to be too confusing for me to want
> > to forward it to my Boeing colleagues.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ==========================
> > Michael Uschold
> > M&CT, Phantom Works
> > 425 373-2845
> > michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx
> > ==========================
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:26 AM
> > To: ontolog-invitation@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ontology Summit
> Forum
> > Subject: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2007 Survey
> >
> > Re: Ontology Summit 2007 - Ontology, Taxonomy, Folksonomy:
> > Understanding the Distinctions
> >
> >
> > As part of the ongoing "Ontology Summit 2007" initiative, we are making
> > an attempt to reach out to everyone (in research, applications and
> > everything in between) who profess in developing or facilitating the
> > evolution of "ontologies" and structures that help model semantics here.
> >
> > We need your input, from the perspective of your constituency
> > (communities or sub-communities that applies the science, art and
> > engineering of ontology), telling us what "ontology" and other
> > "ontology-related terms" mean to you. We also want you to tell us
> > about representative ontological (or related) artifacts in your
> > constituency.
> >
> > With your input, we hope to clarify what everyone (coming from different
> > constituency) mean when they use the term "ontology" or when they refer
> > to related semantic structures; and with that, help everyone better
> > understand the different types of "ontologies" or "semantic structures"
> > that fall broadly within the spectrum. By doing so, the research,
> > development and Internet communities would, hopefully, have a better way
> > of comparing, combining and mapping ontologies to one another.
> >
> > I invite you to spend a few minutes and complete the online survey for
> > this joint effort. You can find it at:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/survey/summit72.html
> >
> > Your input is very important to the endeavor. Please pass this
> > invitation along to colleagues of your who are in a position to provide
> > meaningful input on the matter as well.
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance. =ppy
> >
> > Peter P. Yim, Co-convener, Ontolog
> >
> > on behalf of the
> > Ontology Summit 2007 organizing committee
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> >
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