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Re: [ontolog-forum] "I don't believe in word senses." Sue Atkins

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From: Gary Berg-Cross <gbergcross@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 16:15:56 -0400
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John

Still would we agree that "defitional" ideas  term/wordsenses as assembled in dictionaries. glossaries and the like are useful places
to look when trying to develop ontologies?

Gary Berg-Cross, Ph.D.  
NSF INTEROP Project  
SOCoP Executive Secretary
Knowledge Strategies    
Potomac, MD
240-426-0770


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:44 AM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The subject line is a quotation by the professional lexicographer
Sue Atkins.  She certainly knows what she's talking about, as her
Wikipedia entry indicates:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._T._S._Atkins

Adam Kilgarriff, a computational linguist, used that quotation as
the title of a widely cited paper:

    http://www.kilgarriff.co.uk/Publications/1997-K-CHum-believe.pdf

 From the abstract of that paper:

> Word sense disambiguation assumes word senses. Within the lexicography
> and linguistics literature, they are known to be very slippery entities.
> The paper looks at problems with existing accounts of `word sense' and
> describes the various kinds of ways in which a word's meaning can deviate
> from its core meaning. An analysis is presented in which word senses
> are abstractions from clusters of corpus citations, in accordance with
> current lexicographic practice. The corpus citations, not the word senses,
> are the basic objects in the ontology. The corpus citations will be
> clustered into senses according to the purposes of whoever or whatever
> does the clustering. In the absence of such purposes, word senses do not exist.

I strongly agree with both Sue A. and Adam K. on those issues.  I won't
say that I completely agree with either or both on everything, but the
points they make are always well informed and well worth considering.
Following are Adam's publications:

    http://trac.sketchengine.co.uk/wiki/AK/Papers

Annotations can be useful for many applications.  But in general, they
must always be considered approximations for some specific purpose in
the context for which they were developed.  This fact has been very
well known to translators for centuries.

John

PS:  Beryl Atkins adopted the name Sue because her husband couldn't
pronounce 'Beryl'.

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