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Re: [ontolog-forum] ONTOLOG community event planning and scheduling sess

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 08:57:13 -0400
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On 9/10/13 7:22 AM, David Eddy wrote:
John -

On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:28 AM, John F Sowa wrote:

The most widely used languages are the ones that actually do something
useful -- especially ones that somebody is willing to pay somebody else
to do something useful with.

Totally true.

Obviously there's a very long tail in this equation.

The lack of management oversight over the years also means all sorts of weird stuff has found its way into the production stack.


My crude rule-of-thumb for an IBM mainframe production application would have a minimum of 6 languages in a single application:

Languages used in the last application I had my hands on:

- COBOL
- Assembler
- CICS
- JCL
- IMS (how many sub languages in & around a 40 year-old IMS application?)
- ETC (an HTML-like document composition language from Applied Data Research)
- ??? report writer.

To what degree (if any) are the items above loosely coupled with data?


How many languages are there in a SW application?  RDF, OWL, SPARQL, ???

With regards to the items above, loose coupling with data has been generally overlooked in most associated narratives. Net effect, a lot of totally avoidable confusion and many unnecessary wars, at a variety of levels.

We just need logic, data, and applications to be loosely coupled. Remember,  history has shown that conflating the aforementioned items always fails :-)

Kingsley

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