Yes, I interpret this 'bark' as a noun - the audible waveform that sounds
like the bark of a dog.
The action 'to bark' is what causes ('produces') the sound, in the COSMO
ontology view of things. (01)
What I found interesting is that, although I am guessing that sound
primitives will include pure tones and syllables, the notion of animal
sounds being very basic had not occurred to me, nor appeared in the works I
have seen. It is possible that the brain research being done these days may
provide some objective data to indicate which concepts are actually
primitive from a human thinking point of view. Stay 'tuned'. ;-) (02)
Pat (03)
Patrick Cassidy
MICRA Inc.
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> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barkmeyer, Edward J
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:50 AM
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] 15,000-year-old ancestral language
>
> Pat,
>
> The article says that 'bark' is a noun.
>
> Beyond the pronouns, I would not attach too much significance to the
> handful of survivors of 15000 years of social change. English alone
> tells us that the "half life" of important words can be significantly
> altered by social and military history. Words of the conqueror will
> displace words of the conquered; words of the dominant trade people
> will displace words of the consumers. Words for tools might change
> when you switch from stone to bronze. Even words for eating might
> change when your diet changes. (And in the latter half of the 20th
> century it became commonplace in our trade to re-invent the same old
> wheels every 5-10 years with a whole new set of terms to suggest that
> there was a "new" technology. While that might be an egregious case,
> I'm sure it has happened in some form many times in 15000 years.)
>
> -Ed
>
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> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] 15,000-year-old ancestral language
>
> Interesting. The word "bark" (or "barking") is not included in the
> Longman
> defining vocabulary.
> It is defined as "the sharp sound made by a dog" (all those words are
> in the
> defining vocabulary), and as similar sounds.
>
> This may be one of the semantic primitives missing from the Longman
> defining
> vocabulary; though it can be "defined" (in the dictionary sense), the
> understanding depends on the reader having had the perception
> experience of
> hearing a dog bark.
>
> I just added this to the COSMO ontology. Thanks.
>
>
> Pat
>
>
> Patrick Cassidy
> MICRA Inc.
> cassidy@xxxxxxxxx
> 908-561-3416
>
> To minimize effort, the list is reproduced here:
>
> Thou
> I
> Not
> That
> We
> To give
> Who
> This
> What
> Man/male
> Ye
> Old
> Mother
> To hear
> Hand
> Fire
> To pull
> Black
> To flow
> Bark
> Ashes
> To spit
> Worm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-
> > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Cooper
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 5:30 PM
> > To: '[ontolog-forum] '
> > Subject: [ontolog-forum] 15,000-year-old ancestral language
> >
> > I found an article titled
> >
> > "Ultraconserved words point to deep language
> > ancestry across Eurasia"
> >
> > That might be interesting to an occasional
> > ontologist among us. The URL is:
> >
> > http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/05/01/12187
> > 26110.full.pdf+html
> >
> > It lists 23 words that are shared in a buncha
> > modern languages, and the authors claim the 15,000
> > year old dating through statistical analysis.
> > They produce what they call a "Phylogenetic Tree
> > of the Eurasiatic Language Superfamily".
> >
> > Are all 23 of these words in Cyc?
> >
> > Does anyone know if these words are part of Ana
> > Wierzbicka's vocabulary of primitives to some
> > degree?
> >
> > -Rich
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Rich Cooper
> > EnglishLogicKernel.com
> > Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
> > 9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2
> >
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