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Re: [ontolog-forum] Universal Basic Semantic Structures

To: doug@xxxxxxxxxx, "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Phil Murray <pcmurray2000@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 11:05:03 -0400
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Thanks, Doug.    (01)

I will look into the relevant parts of Cyc.    (02)

And I will try to keep my questions to a minimum, because I'm sure you 
are quite busy.    (03)

       Phil    (04)


doug foxvog wrote:
> On Thu, October 4, 2012 09:20, Phil Murray wrote:
>
>> Gian Piero Zarri wrote:
>>> I am
>>> interested in a "deep level" representation, of events and situations
>>> and not in a surface analysis of the syntactic/semantic relationships
>>> between the items of a particular NL expression. And this means also
>>> that the final conceptual representation should be totally indifferent
>>> with respect to surface features like "active" and "passive"
>> This is *exactly* my perspective.
>> I hope that you and Doug do not disagree on the importance of this
>> perspective, because I have great respect for both of you.
> We agree on this.
>
>> I am thinking about creating a resource devoted to developing a
>> "reference model" for expressing or representing meaning (in the sense
>> of "deep level representations"), because I have not discovered such a
>> resource on the Web.
>>
>> I think we need such a resource because there are people from several
>> different disciplines or areas of specialization who have similar or
>> closely related interests -- interests that overlap in this one critical
>> perspective. I believe that there are *many* people who are deeply
>> interested in this perspective ... or who would be deeply interested if
>> they understood its importance.
>>
>> I'm not sure yet whether that resource should be an expansion of my
>> moribund blog or some other kind of forum. I'll send pointers when I
>> have something worth pointing to. ;-)
>>
>> And I welcome any pointers to existing resources.
> I'd urge looking at what Cyc has done at this level.  Finding the wheat
> in the chaff can be difficult for those who do not have much experience
> in Cyc, especially due to the proliferation of very narrow classes not
> restricted to narrow contexts and identified as direct subclasses of very
> broad classes.
>
> Research Cyc has argument restrictions defined for its predicates and
> rules defined for the higher level role predicates that are at the level
> you are discussing.  OpenCyc has had both of these stripped away, and
> so is much harder to use for examining a "deep level representation, of
> events and situations".
>
> -- doug foxvog
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>       Phil
>>
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