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Re: [ontolog-forum] What goes into a Lexicon?

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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:39:27 -0800
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Dear David,

 

That is my experience also.  Choosing names that a large number of team members can relate to is a difficult problem.  So it isn’t too surprising that “Postal Code” and “Zip Code” as partial synonyms abound, even today.  I worked in the software engineering division of Hughes Fullerton – about 1,000 employees, mostly SW engineers and administrators – and saw this phenomenon in every project, of which there were dozens if not hundreds. 

 

But when I said “I haven’t heard of an ontology project of large size”, I meant one which used a true ontology instead of just a data dictionary, which was not a solution to the problem then either.  The DD is useful for cleaning up a project after all the problems have been solved, and the program had to be shipped to the maintenance team.  But it only added to the cost of development and didn’t solve development problems; it was considered good maintenance practice only. 

 

-Rich

 

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper

EnglishLogicKernel.com

Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Eddy
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] What goes into a Lexicon?

 

Rich -

 

On Feb 29, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Rich Cooper wrote:



I haven’t heard of an ontology project of large size

 

I an add a smidge of background context from this side of the pond.

 

I have no direct knowledge on the level of contact between the Shell Oil (Houston) I had as customer in the late 1980s & Shell (London).  My assumption from experience is that large organizations have significant coordination/communication/collaboration challenges.

 

In the late 1980s, CASE tool was not a four letter word.  Shell (Houston) used several data modeling (CASE) tools.

 

They also had at least two (likely 3 now) central data dictionaries (aka "metadata repository").

 

 

The challenge we danced with was:

 

Model A is done.

 

Model B is done.

 

These efforts are NOT coordinated.

 

 

At some point A & B are "merged."

 

The challenge was (and still is, as far as I know)... how do I get "Postal Code" & "Zip Code" to collide as potential/probable synonyms?

 

 

At the time "naming conventions" or "naming standards" (there's a HUGE difference) were in fashion.  Taxonomy & ontology were, AFAIK not associated with this issue.

 

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David Eddy

 

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