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Re: [ontolog-forum] Siri's (Apple) Patent Application

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From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:55:57 -0700
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Dear Peter,    (01)

Agreed re the FTF vs FTI.  The many inventors I
know are upset about this new law, and working
hard to reverse it, so perhaps that will be
changed.  But it will take years.      (02)

The motivation for FTF was that it fits with the
international patent treaty (PCT) agreements in
force in other countries.  It also wreaks fewer
wrinkles in litigation because the facts do not
include "intention", which is so hard to prove or
disprove, and for which every inventor is
convinced he "intended" the invention exactly one
year before he filed it.  FTF clears up a lot of
those debatable points, but has lots of drawbacks
compared to FTI.      (03)

Yet the US has been more prolific in invention
than any other country using FTI for 200+ years,
and the statistics for countries (e.g. Canada)
that have changed from FTI to FTF are not good.
This could hamper innovation efforts in many
fields.      (04)

Rich Cooper
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2    (05)

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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Siri's (Apple) Patent
Application    (06)

> [AH]  Thoughts?    (07)

[ppy]  while I totally admire the way they have
executed it, and am
happy for the Apple/Siri folks for finally
bringing ontology and
semantic technology to the mass market with such
fanfare ... I am, at
the same time, saddened by the fact that we (in
the US) too, are now
under a "first to file" patent regime (and that
"first to invent" is
no longer relevant!)    (08)

Regards. =ppy
--    (09)

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ali SH
<asaegyn+out@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> A few years ago Adam Cheyer and Tom Gruber were
kind enough to present an
> overview of Siri on ontolog
ceCall_2010_02_25 ), were
> subsequently bought out by Apple and a few weeks
ago Apple released Siri as
> that "one more thing" part of their
presentations - deeply integrating it
> into the iPhone4S and their new iOS'es. Some
claim it is a break out point
> for mass acceptance of AI technologies, and its
cultural / technological
> consequences are on par with the mouse or GUI's.
> Regardless, I thought people here might be
interested in their patent
> application, which is reviewed on this site:
> while this one looks at the surrounding patent
protections Siri and Apple
> (and I suppose SRI) may have built around the
us-about-ip/ ). The claims
> on the '790 patent are incredibly broad
>> An automated assistant operating on a computing
device, the assistant
>> comprising:
>> an input device, for receiving user input;
>> a language interpreter component, for
interpreting the received user input
>> to derive a representation of user intent;
>> a dialog flow processor component, for
identifying at least one domain, at
>> least one task, and at least one parameter for
the task, based at least in
>> part on the derived representation of user
>> a services orchestration component, for calling
at least one service for
>> performing the identified task;
>> an output processor component, for rendering
output based on data received
>> from the at least one called service, and
further based at least in part on
>> a current output mode; and
>> an output device, for outputting the rendered
> Fwiw, I believe that Leonid Kravets has
misunderstood the "language
> interpreter" claim, and I doubt Apple is
referring to Nuance, but the
> NLP/ontology interpretation that Siri is doing
w/ the Nuance speech-to-text
> strings...
> There's recently been another, much narrower
patent application to do with
> ontologies and NLP, titled "Method and system
for generating an ontology"
see: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sec
N/8,027,948&RS=PN/8,027,948 for
> more details.
> Thoughts?
> (•`'·.¸(`'·.¸(•)¸.·'´)¸.·'´•) .,.,    (010)

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