On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Rich Cooper
<rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
> Agreed re the FTF vs FTI. The many inventors I
> know are upset about this new law, and working
> hard to reverse it, so perhaps that will be
> changed. But it will take years. (01)
is there an ontology of politicos that are on our side or otherwise
enemies of invention? is there a tool to work against this yet? (02)
>
> The motivation for FTF was that it fits with the
> international patent treaty (PCT) agreements in
> force in other countries. It also wreaks fewer
> wrinkles in litigation because the facts do not
> include "intention", which is so hard to prove or
> disprove, and for which every inventor is
> convinced he "intended" the invention exactly one
> year before he filed it. FTF clears up a lot of
> those debatable points, but has lots of drawbacks
> compared to FTI.
>
> Yet the US has been more prolific in invention
> than any other country using FTI for 200+ years,
> and the statistics for countries (e.g. Canada)
> that have changed from FTI to FTF are not good.
> This could hamper innovation efforts in many
> fields.
>
> Sincerely,
> Rich Cooper
> EnglishLogicKernel.com
> Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Peter Yim
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:17 AM
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Siri's (Apple) Patent
> Application
>
>> [AH] Thoughts?
>
> [ppy] while I totally admire the way they have
> executed it, and am
> happy for the Apple/Siri folks for finally
> bringing ontology and
> semantic technology to the mass market with such
> fanfare ... I am, at
> the same time, saddened by the fact that we (in
> the US) too, are now
> under a "first to file" patent regime (and that
> "first to invent" is
> no longer relevant!)
>
> Regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Ali SH
> <asaegyn+out@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> A few years ago Adam Cheyer and Tom Gruber were
> kind enough to present an
>> overview of Siri on ontolog
>>
> ( http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conferen
> ceCall_2010_02_25 ), were
>> subsequently bought out by Apple and a few weeks
> ago Apple released Siri as
>> that "one more thing" part of their
> presentations - deeply integrating it
>> into the iPhone4S and their new iOS'es. Some
> claim it is a break out point
>> for mass acceptance of AI technologies, and its
> cultural / technological
>> consequences are on par with the mouse or GUI's.
>> Regardless, I thought people here might be
> interested in their patent
>> application, which is reviewed on this site:
>>
> http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/10/12/how-siri-on-
> iphone-4s-works-and-why-it%E2%80%99s-a-big-deal-ap
> ple%E2%80%99s-ai-tech-details-in-230-pages-of-pate
> nt-app/
>> while this one looks at the surrounding patent
> protections Siri and Apple
>> (and I suppose SRI) may have built around the
> technologies
>>
> ( http://startupsip.com/2011/10/14/is-apple-siri-o
> us-about-ip/ ). The claims
>> on the '790 patent are incredibly broad
>>
>>>
>>> An automated assistant operating on a computing
> device, the assistant
>>> comprising:
>>>
>>> an input device, for receiving user input;
>>> a language interpreter component, for
> interpreting the received user input
>>> to derive a representation of user intent;
>>> a dialog flow processor component, for
> identifying at least one domain, at
>>> least one task, and at least one parameter for
> the task, based at least in
>>> part on the derived representation of user
> intent;
>>> a services orchestration component, for calling
> at least one service for
>>> performing the identified task;
>>> an output processor component, for rendering
> output based on data received
>>> from the at least one called service, and
> further based at least in part on
>>> a current output mode; and
>>> an output device, for outputting the rendered
> output.
>>
>> Fwiw, I believe that Leonid Kravets has
> misunderstood the "language
>> interpreter" claim, and I doubt Apple is
> referring to Nuance, but the
>> NLP/ontology interpretation that Siri is doing
> w/ the Nuance speech-to-text
>> strings...
>> There's recently been another, much narrower
> patent application to do with
>> ontologies and NLP, titled "Method and system
> for generating an ontology"
>>
> see: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sec
> t1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPT
> O%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8,027,948.PN.&OS=P
> N/8,027,948&RS=PN/8,027,948 for
>> more details.
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> (•`'·.¸(`'·.¸(•)¸.·'´)¸.·'´•) .,.,
>
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