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From: "AzamatAbdoullaev" <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:51:13 +0300
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On Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:29 PM, John wrote: "What you say below is consistent with what I said.  Just one qualification:  a plan is always a list of *proposed* actions."
 
That's a significant qualification. Because of such possibility, most plans don't follow the actions planned. Instead their results appear as self-organized, a complex emergence of simple interactions of constituent parts/actions, by involving cybernetic, feedback influences, at different levels of organization.
Regardless our strategic planning effort, nothing critical is following human plans, global economy, world's cities, science and technology, as well as the global networks as the Internet and the Web, not mentioning the emergent structures in nature, as hurricanes or sand dunes or the life itself. As we feel daily, regardless of comprehensive development planning, regional and urban spatial plans and strategies, cities are demonstrating unpanned behavior, either to higher order, urban sustainable growth, or lower chaos, urban sprawl and urban decay.
  
Like with Janus, there are two perspectives here: integrated planning framework and spontaneous/emergent order. As Master Zhuang, who saw those famous butterfly dream leaving us ever amused, said: "good order results spontaneously when things are let alone". Still the planning framework is to be added here.
 
 
 
 
Zhuangzi dreaming of a butterfly (or a butterfly dreaming of Zhuangzi): where is a real reality and fictitous world?
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] intangibles (was RE: Why most classifications are fuzzy)

Azamat,

What you say below is consistent with what I said.  Just one qualification:  a plan is always a list of *proposed* actions.  After the plan is executed, they can be discussed as completed actions.  But as long as it remains a plan, they are in the future.  And as Robert Burns said, "The best laid plans o' mice and men gang aft agley."

Don't count your planned chickens before they're hatched.

> It's a bit abstract even for a top-down planning approach. Any plan is a
> list of actions and a set of hierarchical goals, constrained by timing and
> resources. Formulated/created by planning and forecasting, a plan/program
> is an ordered set: <actions, timing, resources, goals>.
> Practiced planning classifications, from the general schema of things to
> projects, strategies, roadmaps and guidelines, master plans and blueprints
> to social plans, political plans, economic plans, business plans, or
> military plans, favour such a pragmatic meaning.
> Try your approach for a strategy, a plan of action, political, economic,
> business, or military, like, say, U.S. plan to invade Iraq. Or, for
> budget, pension plan or employee savings plan. Or, for a master plan of
> sustainable development.
> Azamat
> PS: It appears planning/forecasting is a key characteristic of
> intelligence.

I agree with the PS -- and many animals, including mice, have sufficient intelligence to make plans.

John



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