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Re: [ontolog-forum] the data mining craze

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From: "ZENG, MARCIA" <mzeng@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:44:47 -0500
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I happen to find the taxonomy behind wik.me, starting from the high level:  
  • organization   
  • person   
  • production    
  • location   
  • event   

At each ‘category’ there is also a synonym ring, for example, e.g.:


Of people, organism and causal agent     May also be referred to as individual, mortal, somebody, someone and soul.

A human being; "there was too much for one person to do".

It would be interesting to see the taxonomy, for example, ‘shape’ is the first under ‘people’.
Thanks for sharing this interesting service!

On 2/27/11 4:12 AM, "Stephen Young" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Pavithra, I think you must have misspelled "Einstein".   http://search.wik.me/search.htm?words=Albert+Einstein  returns 20+ concepts named for Albert Einstein - and the topmost result is the man himself.  And that list is something you CANNOT get from Google.

Clicking the top result http://wik.me/lfn2 ("Albert Einstein") also gives you something you can't get from Google - a self-organised presentation of what wik.me <http://wik.me>  "knows" about Einstein.  Google knows *nothing* about Einstein but where to find pages that contain the string "Albert Einstein".

Structured data is always going to permit greater functionality than keyword indexing.  If it didn't, you and I wouldn't have a job ;-)

But of course Google is more robust - it would have detected your spelling mistake and given you the most-likely valid alternative.  So it should be with 2000 engineers and over a decade of refinement.

wik.me <http://wik.me>  can also only return results based on the data it has mapped, which means it's a valid alternative to Google for only a minority of searches.  Our estimates suggest that with all organisations, products and services in, we should give a much better experience for around 65% of all searches currently made against Google.  That's next.


On 26 February 2011 23:07, Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
wik.me <http://wik.me/>  is another search tool with a LIST of results .. does not provide anything more than Google would.  Google is more robust .   This  uses information from answers.com <http://answers.com>  etc..
 The word "Albert Einstein" did not get a result at all, but a list of names that started with Albert and did not include Einstein.

Qwiki.com actually provides information on what is typed in.  When it can not find the actual information ( NOT A LIST)  it simply says it did not find it.  For example, if you type world's tallest building, it did not find any information.  They need to include lot more data sets..

Quiki.com seems to be more in the direction of web 3.0 mobile apps with plenty of room to grow.    But the audio is very mechanical, unlike Watson;s voice. (  :-) )!


--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Stephen Young <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Stephen Young <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] the data mining craze
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 6:28 PM

We actually characterised qwiki as the reverse wik.me <http://wik.me>  when we first saw it ;-)  All style no substance.  There may have been some bitterness ;-) - we both applied to launch at TechCrunch Disrupt last year.  They got in, we didn't.

I'm frequently amazed by what captures (and fails to capture) the imagination of the technology pundit.  We presented a site/app that is a quantum improvement over Web 2.0 structured data plays like Freebase and Factual.  Among other things our video demonstrated that anyone could change complex structured data with simple twitter-like comments - and yet we didn't make the cut.  Qwiki went on to win the Techrunch Disrupt prize - followed soon after by some serious venture funding.

Mind you, this forum is little different.  I've just announced the ontological equivalent of a flying car here and received no more interest than a few private messages ;-)

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