On 2/28/11 7:56 PM, Stephen Young wrote:
Azamat, I've seen enough upper-ontology-related
discussions on this list to know that you'll never get agreement
on a "full reclassification". And neither should you - the tight
structures you've no doubt got in mind just won't be general
enough for universal use.
When we built our "map" we said "let's build something we can get
all the concepts into and argue about the relationships later".
The axioms are a work-in-progress. Those derived from WordNet may
be a long way from perfect, but they *do* allow us to do *some*
things that haven't been done before. And the hope is that the
interactive nature of the wik.me site, the APIs and other
"windows" into the data that we do will allow people to improve
the map.
Steve,
ETA for API access?
Kingsley
Steve
On 1 March 2011 03:46, AzamatAbdoullaev <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
WordNet is indeed a great
lexical resource.
But to copy it as it is
could end up with ineffective applications, for its
third level of synsets downwards ( Root: Entity >
Physical Entity [Thing, Object, Cause, Substance,
Process]; Abstract Entity [Abstraction, or Attribute:
State, Time, Space, Quality, Property, ...Personality];
Thing ? is in need of full reclassification.
However strange, its
middle- and ground level collections make the strongest
parts.
Azamat Abdoullaev
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> It would be interesting to see the taxonomy,
for example, ‘shape’ is the first under ‘people’.
> Thanks for sharing this interesting service!
Our pleasure, Marcia :-)
What you found is a basic categorisation that wik.me uses to group concepts -
mainly for page presentation purposes. wik.me/1 is what you get when it
can't find any concept that closely matches your
search.
The real "taxonomy" is derived from WordNet - the top
level concepts can be traced directly to WordNet noun
synsets. WordNet is a fantastic resource, and this
has been a common strategy. Root is "entity" at http://wik.me/2s .
I mentioned in my first post to this forum that our
aim was to create a structure that could serve as a
kind of devolved universal ontology/universal data
schema. The challenge has been to find a structure
that maintains this universality, but still offers
some usefulness. What we have at the moment has even
fewer axioms than WordNet - and I'm sure we could
introduce more. It's a work-in-progress, and I'd
certainly value the input of anyone on this forum who
is interested.
Steve
On 28 February 2011 03:44,
ZENG, MARCIA <mzeng@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I happen
to find the taxonomy behind wik.me,
starting from the high level:
- organization
- person
- production
- location
- event
http://wik.me/1#foundPages
At each ‘category’ there is also a synonym
ring, for example, e.g.:
Person
Of people, organism and causal agent
May also be referred to as individual,
mortal, somebody, someone and soul.
A human being; "there was too much for one
person to do".
It would be interesting to see the taxonomy,
for example, ‘shape’ is the first under
‘people’.
Thanks for sharing this interesting service!
Marcia
Clicking the top result http://wik.me/lfn2
("Albert Einstein") also gives you
something you can't get from Google - a
self-organised presentation of what wik.me
<http://wik.me>
"knows" about Einstein. Google knows
*nothing* about Einstein but where to find
pages that contain the string "Albert
Einstein".
Structured data is always going to
permit greater functionality than
keyword indexing. If it didn't, you and
I wouldn't have a job ;-)
But of course Google is more robust - it
would have detected your spelling
mistake and given you the most-likely
valid alternative. So it should be with
2000 engineers and over a decade of
refinement.
wik.me
<http://wik.me>
can also only return results based on the
data it has mapped, which means it's a
valid alternative to Google for only a
minority of searches. Our estimates
suggest that with all organisations,
products and services in, we should give a
much better experience for around 65% of
all searches currently made against
Google. That's next.
Steve
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