Dear Jack, (01)
> A name can be its own identity.
>
> I think the "can" part need way more qualification. I say that as one
> who gets confused by those who think I'm the Jack Park who writes
> books about baseball. (02)
MW: You are now talking about your identity, not the identity of the string
"Jack Park". When I talk about that string, I am talking about it as an
object in its own right, not in its different uses as names of different
people. (03)
MW: Since there is no control over the use of strings as identifiers in
general, there is nothing to stop any string (or other things for that
matter) being used to identify a particular object, so it is the use of the
string that identifies you (or the other guy) and that use needs to be
distinguished. (04)
MW: There are of course some occasions on which some organization or
community agrees to only use, e.g. a string, to identify one thing, and this
can be helpful, but even this does not prevent another community from using
the same string for some other purpose. (05)
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>
> Jack
> who writes books about wind energy, and XML topic map, not baseball.
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Matthew West
> <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Dear Godfrey,
> >
> > It's not that bad.
> >
> >> re John's comment on #1 - especially as you must then give unique
> names
> >> to
> >> the names, and then...
> >
> > MW: A name can be its own identity. More particularly, the string
> used as a
> > name can be its own identity. Being a name is strictly about a use of
> that
> > string by some community to refer to something.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Matthew West
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> >
> >>
> >> Godfrey Rust
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Practical onomastics...
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 5/20/2010 11:54 AM, Ed Barkmeyer wrote:
> >> >> I agree with Doug on almost all points below. (I should, since
> >> >> I said many of the same things.)
> >> >
> >> > I also agree with most of the comments on this thread, and I'd
> like
> >> > to make some observations:
> >> >
> >> > 1. There is no such thing as an ideal naming convention that can
> >> > be systematically applied to anything and everything.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Every naming convention is context dependent, although some
> >> > contexts are larger than others.
> >> >
> >> > 3. Every convention proposed as a globally unique naming
> >> > convention has been modified many times over and eventually
> >> > accepted as yet another context-dependent convention.
> >> >
> >> > The proof of point #1 is simple: the number of bits required to
> >> > assign a unique name to everything in the universe would require
> >> > an even larger universe to store the names. Therefore, most
> >> > things in our universe cannot be assigned unique names that
> >> > can be stored in our universe.
> >> >
> >> > John Sowa
> >> >
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