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Re: [ontolog-forum] Practical onomastics...

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From: Jack Park <jackpark@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 01:58:24 -0700
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A name can be its own identity.    (01)

I think the "can" part need way more qualification. I say that as one
who gets confused by those who think I'm the Jack Park who writes
books about baseball.    (02)

Jack
who writes books about wind energy, and XML topic map, not baseball.    (03)

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Godfrey,
>
> It's not that bad.
>
>> re John's comment on #1 - especially as you must then give unique names
>> to
>> the names, and then...
>
> MW: A name can be its own identity. More particularly, the string used as a
> name can be its own identity. Being a name is strictly about a use of that
> string by some community to refer to something.
>
> Regards
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>> Godfrey Rust
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Practical onomastics...
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On 5/20/2010 11:54 AM, Ed Barkmeyer wrote:
>> >> I agree with Doug on almost all points below.  (I should, since
>> >> I said many of the same things.)
>> >
>> > I also agree with most of the comments on this thread, and I'd like
>> > to make some observations:
>> >
>> >  1. There is no such thing as an ideal naming convention that can
>> >     be systematically applied to anything and everything.
>> >
>> >  2. Every naming convention is context dependent, although some
>> >     contexts are larger than others.
>> >
>> >  3. Every convention proposed as a globally unique naming
>> >     convention has been modified many times over and eventually
>> >     accepted as yet another context-dependent convention.
>> >
>> > The proof of point #1 is simple:  the number of bits required to
>> > assign a unique name to everything in the universe would require
>> > an even larger universe to store the names.  Therefore, most
>> > things in our universe cannot be assigned unique names that
>> > can be stored in our universe.
>> >
>> > John Sowa
>> >
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