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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontologies as social mediators (was: Ontologydevelop

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From: Christopher Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:03:16 -0600
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On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:51 AM, FERENC KOVACS wrote:
> ...I find that the basic laws of logic, i. e. the law of identity, etc. are 
>not endorsed by reason seeing truth as the ultimate criteria of anything worth 
>stating and accepting as plausible knowledge.    (01)

If what you say is true, you should be able to give a valid argument for it. 
However, if what you say is true, it will not be possible for you to do so, 
since a valid argument must depend on the validity of the basic laws of logic.  
Hence, what you say is not true.  (Of course, you will not accept this argument 
since it depends on the argument pattern Reductio Ad Absurdum, which according 
to you is not endorsed by reason and hence, presumably, is not valid.)    (02)

> On the contrary, they are endorsed by emotion and will,    (03)

So I guess it follows for you (although how can it *follow* if there are no 
objectively valid logical laws by which one thing follows from another?) that 
there can be no debates.  Rather, on your telling, we simply throw out our 
opinions (all of them ungrounded in argument, it appears) and hope that others 
will accept them in virtue of a sudden flood of emotion or a non-rational act 
of will.  And, indeed, reading through your post, it does appear to be simply a 
series of assertions with nary an argument to be found so you do appear to be 
consistent on that score.    (04)

> since truth is something people are ready to fight for and anything claimed 
>to be not true would normally upset the person claiming that point, if 
>challenged.    (05)

I hope I haven't upset you. ;-)    (06)

Chris Menzel    (07)

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