Ravi wrote:
"Rich and Chris, Best regards and request that we do not stop
expressing ourselves in spite of occasional mis-communication as we are
working with multiple language and cultural backgrounds, Azamat would
hopefully also agree?"
AA: i am getting a bit fantastic assignment: pooling
all the intellectual forces, to chip into building a new intelligent city,
Neapolis, in the legendary city of Pafos, at the coastline of the Med sea. While
working out its representations, i found many meanngs of the notion, from
digital, vitual internet city, or cyberville, to smart community to
intelligent environments or space with embedded ICTs to broadband
territories to knowledge learning and innovation regions.
For the concept of cyberville, a piece of virtual world, there
is a porous boundary between the real world of natural cities and the
virtul world of digital cities. As such, there is the real world of substances
and beings, states, actions and relations, opposed by the information,
model world of objects and agents, states, and activities, and simulated
relations and rules [as locomotion, gravitation, topography, interactions
and communications.
And who breaks the boundaries between so different worlds and
cities? Agents, participants, players, who coming and going from the world,
bringing into the virtual world with their idiosyncratic behavioral assumptions
and attitudes and mindset and cultural backgrounds.
Our forum is a bit of digital world, bringing together best
minds from multiple cultural backgrounds, with their own cultural preconceptions
about those other cultures across the reality-cyberspace boundary into the high
internet community of ontology and logic.
Re the status of the virtual world actions and acts, as
the faux pas unintentionally performed, i incline to accept the position of
being more alive and sensitive to each other.
Azamat Abdoullaev
PS: i'd really appreciate exchanging of views on the
intelligent city, its nature, features, architecture, infrastructure, and
relationships with ontology, semantic technology, information space, and
knowledge
systems.
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Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 5:40
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Event
Ontology
John
Thanks for the interpretation of consciousness in each of the
three realms. I will reflect further and learn more about each viewpoint
and hope to reconnect later on the ontological consequences of each of
the three interpretations.
At wider metaphysical level the consciousness inherent in the smallest
particle is its own "self knowledge" that is like an encapsulated knowledge
that determines how that particle is to appear to behave such as be bound to
electrons, single valence for a molecule, parity and spin and charge
etc.
At higher life forms the consciousness is in Context i.e. topic based if
you want to verify it externally. All expressions are through senses. But it
is conceivable that a human is in coma but can not express externally but is
still conscious as it knows it is alive with severe sensory limitations. These
have lead some Indian scientists (neurosurgeons) to do experiments / attempts
at slight clues that are external sense type responses, as doctors do for
checking on us by examining our pupils and shining torch-light in to them to
see if we are respondent. Now a days PET scans would be more sensitive
indicators for such situations.
Coming to cognitive consciousness at communication levels we are after
that aspect in ontologies that enables us to compare, communicate and share
knowledge and experiences and there it is relevant to study the impact of
John's response for three areas.
Again I tie these comments to earlier
ones, for some of us any sensory response is sufficient, but if we could
notionally put a weight on the consciousness expressivity related to
understanding and knowledge and i realize that there is a spread there, we
could someday score these to be at some level of understanding, I would
not today easily qualify to the responding level in general relativity even
though I taught a grad school course 40 years ago.
How cognition and ontology are related - is my next humble submission to
John and others to respond?
P.S. Rich and Chris, Best regards and request that we do not stop
expressing ourselves in spite of occasional mis-communication as we are
working with multiple language and cultural backgrounds, Azamat would
hopefully also agree?
--
Thanks.
Ravi
(Dr. Ravi Sharma)
313 204 1740
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