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To: "Pieter De Leenheer" <pdeleenh@xxxxxxxxx>, <semantic-web@xxxxxxx>, "[ontolog-forum] " <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "AzamatAbdoullaev" <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:20:00 +0300
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Pieter,    (01)

Re. a trans-disciplinary forum. To be successful, I suggest you to organize 
a meta-conference on the larger topic: Computational Philosophy, Science and 
Technology. It will be sure marked by a favorable outcome, and many from 
these good fora will be there, i believe. Just see the subject on the recent 
TED Global 2009 at Oxford, The Substance of Things Not Seen. 
http://conferences.ted.com/TEDGlobal2009/    (02)

Mostly about relationships, as if they were intangible things. Nevertheless, 
a very successful meeting, as Paola says, with the Gordon Brown's keynote, 
also doing his best to see the unseen resources.    (03)

Some comments below.    (04)

Azamat Abdoullaev    (05)

http://semanticwww.com    (06)

----- Original Message -----     (07)

From: "Pieter De Leenheer" <pdeleenh@xxxxxxxxx>    (08)

To: "AzamatAbdoullaev" <abdoul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>    (09)

Cc: <semantic-web@xxxxxxx>; "[ontolog-forum] " 
<ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <fchum@xxxxxxxxxxx>    (010)

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:08 PM    (011)

Subject: Re: independent semantic software evaluation frameworks?    (012)

> Thanks, A.
> The need for a trans-disciplinary forum (inline comment) is of  uttermost 
> importance IMHO. I tried to launch COMBEK 
> (http://www.onthemove-conferences.org/index.php/combek09 ), an 
> international workshop on this topic at OTM, but this years(2nd)  edition 
> failed because of the lack of submission.    (013)

AA: It is a timely and topical move. Narrow workshops are hardly of real use 
today, if only somebody pursues some small pragmatic aims. Now the time of 
meta-conferences of transdisciplinarity. Two weeks ago, I keynoted on such a 
trans-conference with a rather general topic:    (014)

Philosophy, Science, Arts and Technology: Grand Unification, Standard 
Ontology, and Wisdom Web.    (015)

There were a lot of scholars from all parts of the world, showing great 
interest to what happening in other knowledge fields.    (016)

This indicates an
> impedance mismatch in and lack of channels for communication between  the 
> relevant disciplines, with the prob. the exception of information 
> systems: while some are too technical, others are to human-social 
> sciences oriented (see my blog 
>http://deleenheer.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/the-pervasive-impedance-mismatch-between-business-and-it/)    (017)

> .
> Is it time for computer science to grow up ?    (018)

AA: Certainly. It extends by the new mega-fields as computational 
philosophy, computational science and technology, where computing is 
becoming a core part. Seemingly, out-of-the-blue-sky for many researchers, a 
whole new meta-field of philosophy, science and technology is emerging as 
computational philosophy, tightly married with computing, where the 
scientists, programmers and developers have been building and coding  world 
systems as machine-readable domain models.    (019)

Such world models are developed as ontologies, metaphilosophy, metamodels, 
vocabularies, hierarchies, taxonomies, unified modeling languages, abstract 
data models, semantic schemas,  or metatheories (as in software engineering 
and systems engineering).    (020)

 > On 10 Aug 2009, at 11:57, AzamatAbdoullaev wrote:
>>> In any case the problem is rather social/cultural/organisational  than 
>>> merely technical.
>> AA: Metafield of science, technology, and philosophy, a sort of 
>> trans-disciplinary problem.
>> Azamat
> Dr. Pieter De Leenheer
> Semantics Technology & Applications Research Laboratory
> Vrije Universiteit Brussel
> T +32 2 629 37 50 | M +32 497 336 553 | F +32 2 629 38 19    (021)

Check out my blog: http://www.pieterdeleenheer.be    (022)

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