Re: [ontolog-forum] Semantic Web shortcomings [was Re:ANN: GoodRelations

["Adrian Walker" <adriandwalker@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ed --

You wrote...

The problem seems to lie in two areas:
 - How much axiomatization is enough to be 'widely useful'?
 - Useful to whom?

While it's tempting to break the task into

• Step1: Axiomatize
• Step2: Make use thereof
  

it looks -- from this and other discussions -- as though success is much more likely if we tightly and interatively interleave Step1 and Step2.

One way to do this is in a Wiki for executable content.  Items [1,2] below represent one such approach.

Some degree of support for executable natural language would seem to be essential to get productive cooperation among the stakeholders.

What do you think?

                                Cheers,   -- Adrian

[1]  www.reengineeringllc.com/Internet_Business_Logic_e-Government_Presentation.pdf

[2]  Internet Business Logic
A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English over SQL and RDF
Online at www.reengineeringllc.com    Shared use is free

Adrian Walker
Reengineering

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Ed Barkmeyer <edbark@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Godfrey Rust wrote:

>> Considering, if you somehow
>> pull off in this heroic but thankless intelligent deed, creating a
>> consistent axiomatic ontology of things in the world, than you will sure
>> become an immortal being.
>> Cheers,
>> Azamat Abdoullaev
>
> Azamat, a noble sentiment, though I wonder if "become an immortal being"
> in this context would be better rendered "die in the attempt"? :-)

This view is a strong rationale for talking about it instead of doing
it.  ;-)

Eswaran Subrahmanian observed that by the time you have finished
formulating the complete ontology for a domain, you will have to begin
again to repair the ontology to match the changes in the accepted wisdom
since you began developing the formulation, and then you can deal with
the changes in the domains it touches on.

The problem seems to lie in two areas:
 - How much axiomatization is enough to be 'widely useful'?
 - Useful to whom?

-Ed

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