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Dear Colleagues, (01)
Well as someone who has to use the much maligned Microsoft Outlook,
let me just set out what can be done in this environment. (02)
1. You can set the default format for your messages to plain text:
Tools>Options>Mail Format>Send in this message format>Plain Text. (03)
2. You can automatically achieve an indent of the original message
with a ">" (or some other character of your choice, but this seems
to be conventional) by:
Tools>Options>E-mail Options>When replying to a message>
Prefix each line of the original message.
and
Prefix each line with, > (04)
3. I know of no way to make Outlook wrap text at 65 characters
automatically. However, you can create a signature that consists of
a row of 65 "*" or a character of your choice and insert it as a
guide every so often in your message, (and optionally delete it
later):
Tools>Options>Mail Format>Signature Picker>New (05)
Then Insert>Signature>Foobar (06)
You then use good old Carriage Return to manually wrap the text. (07)
(Below 65 "*" for you to cut and paste)
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Regards (09)
Matthew West
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
> Sent: 20 January 2008 06:01
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Formatting posts [was - Scheduling a
> Discussion [was: CL, CG, IKL and the relationship between ...]
>
>
> At 11:35 AM +0700 1/20/08, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >Whats the answer to the question 'how did you do the pretty
> indent with a line
> >or two or three according to the sequence of the snipped
> being quoted?
>
> Almost any email handler which works with html
> will do this, which is why the discussion so
> rapidly turned into a debate about the pros and
> cons of html vs. plaintext. There are actually
> several kinds of such indenting. The oldest looks
> like this, using > as an indent character:
>
> Pat wrote:
> >Paola wrote:
> >>>...What was the name of the app?
> >>did anyone answer?
> No.
>
> Several mail apps do this. Eudora uses x-flowed
> text, which uses a very simple html markup to
> indicate nested levels, and displays them with
> vertical lines at the left-hand edge to indicate
> the nesting. Imitating this in plain text, its
> something like this:
>
> Pat wrote:
> |Paola wrote:
> |||...What was the name of the app?
> ||did anyone answer?
> No.
>
> though it actually looks better as the lines are continuous.
>
> Thunderbird uses a similar display but also
> changes the text color with each indenting level,
> which I personally find distracting.
>
> So there is no single answer; and as there are no
> real standards in this area, there is no
> guarantee that what looks good on your screen
> will also look good (let alone identical) on my
> screen, which is why some folk are so attached to
> plain text, which for all its limitations is more
> likely to be consistent between mailers and
> readable by most everyone.
>
> Pat
>
> >that q started this thread off, and I have not seen the answer (sorry
> >if I missed it)
> >cheers
> >PDM
> >
> >
> >> I used Eudora for many years, and I don't recall having a problem
> >> getting it to wrap message body text.
> >>
> >>
> >> How did you do it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> All of us have a lot of email traffic to attend to, and
> to set one's
> >> general preferences to plaintext-only would be suicide in
> the current
> >> world of general email.
> >>
> >> I don't understand this. Just because someone sends you
> HTML messages
> >> does not require you to reply in kind.
> >>
> >> Of course not, but I often (very often) wish to use html
> in email. I
> >> routinely embed images in email, for example.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The real problem is that either the defaults in MUAs
> such as Eudora and
> >> Outlook are extremely poorly chosen, or people
> deliberately configure
> >> them to produce heinous messages. If most people had even a little
> >> sense of what constitutes good typographic design,
> everything would be
> >> fine, but well chosen sizes, layouts and colors are the
> exception, not
> >> the rule. The messages on this list are not an exception, either.
> >>
> >> But to go from this to banning html altogether is like
> saying that because
> >> there are bad drivers, cars should be illegal.
> >>
> >> But let us not start an email-format flame war. After
> Peter's last message
> >> I'm trying out Thunderbird, maybe I'll be able to get
> used to it. However,
> >> AFAIKS, it has no provision for making the composing
> format sensitive to the
> >> particular message. If anyone can explain to me how to do
> it (off-list), I'd
> >> be grateful.
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >>
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