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To: "Pat Hayes" <phayes@xxxxxxx>, "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:31:08 -0800
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Point well taken. Thank you very much for the reference list, Pat.  I
guess you've raise the bar high enough ...    (01)

All: kindly bring up the issue again, if you feel the need for a
session after going through Pat's suggested reading.    (02)

Regards.  =ppy
--    (03)


On Jan 5, 2008 11:00 AM, Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >  > [JB]  Brainstorming people suggestions (alphabetically by last name):
> >>  Ramanathan Guha, Pat Hayes, John McCarthy, Chris Menzel, Duane Nickull, 
>John
> >>  Sowa,...
> >
> >[ppy]  Thank you, John.  Great suggestions - both on the topic and on
> >the panel!
>
> Sorry, count me out. I have been taking part in this interminable
> debate about "contexts" now for years, over a decade, and I am tired
> of it. The KR and formal ontology fields have moved past it now, and
> are dealing with concrete formal issues concerned with precisely
> defined translations between formalisms. (See [**] for example.) IMO
> we all now have a fairly clear grasp of the issues, and anyone can
> read the published work to get up to speed if they wish to. There
> really is no point in going back to a brainstorming stage to debate
> issues of terminology as though they were anything substantive to
> discuss or any open issues (beyond aesthetic matters of preferred
> terminology) to resolve. If anyone prefers to call times, beliefs and
> other things all "contexts" I promise that I will not argue with them
> any more, OK? Especially if, like PatCassidy and McCarthy and Lenat,
> they are willing to agree that there are many *kinds* of context.
>
> PatHayes
>
>
> PS. My contributions to this literature are available here:
>
> www.ihmc.us/users/phayes/Pub/ContextsInContext.pdf
> [**] http://nrrc.mitre.org/NRRC/Docs_Data/ikris/IKL_guide.pdf (see
> especially "contexts and modalities in IKL")
> [**] http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes/SS05HayesP.pdf
>
> Some other fundamental papers which everyone should have read before
> even starting to speak on this topic include:
>
> 
>http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/3566/http:zSzzSzwww-formal.stanford.eduzSzbuvaczSzformalizing-context.pdf/mccarthy97formalizing.pdf
>
> 
>http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/11942/http:zSzzSzwww-formal.stanford.eduzSzbuvaczSzquantificational-logic-of-context.pdf/quantificational-logic-of-context.pdf
>
> http://www.cyc.com/doc/context-space.pdf
>
> 
>http://coblitz.codeen.org:3125/citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/25957/http:zSzzSzwww.cyc.comzSzdoczSzwhite_paperszSzmapping-ontologies-into-cyc_v31.pdf/sl02mapping.pdf
>
> If anyone is left feeling that all this logicy stuff is too
> ivory-tower, there are many papers on more real-world applications,
> for example
>
> 
>http://www.neon-project.org/web-content/images/Publications/reasoning%20with%20temporal%20context%20in%20news%20analysis.pdf
> (notice the use here of "temporal context" to mean, simply,
> time-interval)
>
> For background on some of the long debates on this (and other)
> ontological issues, try browsing the email archives, for example:
>
> http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/email-archives/interlingua.subject-index.html
> (see especially
> http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/email-archives/interlingua.messages/237.html
> et. seq.)
> http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/email-archives/interlingua.messages/116.html
>
> Some of the many workshops and meetings include:
>
> http://context.umcs.maine.edu/IJCAI93/
> http://context.umcs.maine.edu/AAAI99-Workshop/
>
> and for more information, go to
>
> http://mainesail.umcs.maine.edu/Context/
>
> (though that seems to be under reconstruction at the moment)
>
>
>
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>    (04)

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