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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:29:36 -0800
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That is one of the reasons why I had doubts.    (01)

IKL, CL, CG as well as SUMO, DOLCE seem to have mechanisms to capture some
of this however I have failed to clarify the nature of context as I wanted.    (02)

Would make an interesting ontolog session sometimes in 2008.  Maybe Peter
can schedule a call.    (03)

D    (04)


On 1/2/08 10:26 AM, "Francis McCabe" <frankmccabe@xxxxxxx> wrote:    (05)

> Duane
>   I think that these may be fine examples of context in an informal
> way. What, I believe, Pat and co. are doing with IKL is to say that it
> is hard to come up with a consistent logic of contexts. On the other
> hand, IKL allows you to axiomatize whatever notion of context you want
> to.
> Frank
> 
> On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Duane Nickull wrote:
> 
>> After posting this, I am not happy I accurately conveyed what I
>> wanted to
>> say.
>> 
>> /d
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/2/08 10:13 AM, "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm going to take a crack at this too..
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/31/07 6:42 PM, "John F. Sowa" <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes.  That is why I use the word 'context' in a very precise
>>>> way:  a context is a box (or other enclosure) that delimits
>>>> some statement or conjunction of statements that make some
>>>> assertion about the many different kinds of things that people
>>>> have called contexts.
>>> 
>>> Context is a set of zero or more qualifiers that affect various
>>> aspects of
>>> the semantics of a given statement.  Different context qualifiers
>>> can impact
>>> one or more aspects of the semantics of such statements including
>>> representation terms and concepts.
>>> 
>>> Example:
>>> 
>>> A glass of water
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Context one:
>>> 
>>> Glass of water is sitting on your kitchen table.  To the average
>>> Western
>>> observer, it is quite in it's place in this context and is not
>>> raised in
>>> one's internal tuple stores.
>>> 
>>> Concept:  water, two molecules of hydrogen bound to one of oxygen
>>> in a glass
>>> container.
>>> Dangerous: possibly
>>> State: liquid
>>> Use: quenching thirst
>>> Mass: about 200 grams
>>> 
>>> Context two:
>>> 
>>> You are driving down the road in sub zero weather and the same
>>> glass of
>>> water is in the middle of the road.  Since it represents a hazard
>>> for your
>>> vehicle, you raise it to the highest layers of consciousness in your
>>> internal tuple stores and give it active attention.
>>> 
>>> Concept: same as above
>>> Dangerous: yes
>>> state: solid
>>> Mass: at 100 kph, possibly as high as 4 kg.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if this really conveys what my meaning of context is
>>> however
>>> it might be something to aggregate to the holding pen of a context
>>> definition.
>>> 
>>> Duane
>>> 
>> 
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