>John,
>WE both see that the mechanisms of intelligence and intelligent behavior
>consist in finding out what is Real Meaning and how it can be embodied in
>computing machines. Pat is inclined to say (what i repeated many times) that
>formal meaning has nothing to do with Real Semantic Web (01)
That is the exact opposite of what I was saying.
My point was to emphasize that formal theories of
meaning - in particular, the normative model
theories of RDF and OWL - apply to informally
defined notions of meaning just as well as to
meanings defined mathematically. So a formal
entailment can transmit informal consequences
from its premis to its conclusion. This is what
makes the semantic web useful, and not just an
empty exercise in global formal logic. (02)
Pat (03)
>;. Or, no
>understanding of real meanings, no real world semantic applications.
>I believe that this issue must be the main point where we need to
>concentrate our attention.
>Azamat
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>> Azamat,
>>
>> That is true of pure mathematics of any kind. As Bertrand Russell
>> said, "Mathematics may be defined as the subject where we never know
>> what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true."
>>
>>> "Formal meaning is just a mathematical curiosity and has nothing to
>>> do with Real Meanings (the kind that really Matter in Human Discourse
>>> in Society, or whatever), so whenever any formal inferences are done,
>>> the formal conclusions lose all their Real Meaning and are just
>>> mathematical curiosities of no real significance, devoid of any Real
>>> Meaning content outside some narrow abstract mathematical domain."
>>
>> In order to applicable to reality, structures in the hypothesis
>> of the argument must be mapped to the entities of interest in
>> the subject matter of interest.
>>
>> If you do so and if the mapping has a one-to-one correspondence
>> with the entities of interest, then you can be certain that
>> the corresponding parts of the conclusion will also have a
>> one-to-one mapping to the subject matter.
>>
>> That is the essence of all inference, formal or informal.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
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