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RE: [uos-convene] The Big Elephant...

To: "Upper Ontology Summit convention" <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "West, Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321" <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:08:26 -0000
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Dear Mike,    (01)

This is based on my own anecdotal experience. Over the last 20 years
or so I have seen a steady improvement in my own productivity in
developing/analysing data models matching the maturity of the Upper 
Ontology I have been using (including the move from 3.5D to full 4D).    (02)

The overall productivity improvement is a factor of about 4:1. By
comparison I notice that colleagues who do not apply the same
approach are at my early level of performance, and the quality of 
what they produce is also significantly inferior (on a fit for purpose
basis).    (03)

The reason for the productivity improvement is that having a good
upper ontology as part of your toolkit means that you know what 
questions to ask in order to place the piece of work in question
within the framework and patterns that you already have. The framework
and patterns give you a high level of reuse of previous work.    (04)

Regards    (05)

Matthew    (06)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Uschold,
> Michael F
> Sent: 07 March 2006 04:10
> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
> Subject: RE: [uos-convene] The Big Elephant...
> 
> 
> This is promising, is there any empirical or anecdotal experience to
> back up this claim?
> 
> Mike
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: West, Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321 [mailto:matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:35 AM
> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
> Subject: RE: [uos-convene] The Big Elephant...
> 
> Dear Mike and Nicola,
> 
> I can be stronger than that, having an upper ontology dramatically
> reduces the cost of reverse engineering existing systems to discover
> their ontology.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Matthew
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Nicola 
> > Guarino
> > Sent: 06 March 2006 14:12
> > To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
> > Subject: Re: [uos-convene] The Big Elephant...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Uschold, Michael F wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > MIkeU said:
> > >
> > >> Oh, and by the way, the big elephant in the room is the 
> fact that:
> > >>
> > >> It is the rarest of exceptions these days, that an 
> application even
> 
> > >> HAS an ontology, but hey, for the sake of this summit, 
> shall we all
> 
> > >> pretend that they do?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Nicola Replied:
> > >
> > > Either implicit or explicit, every application has it's own 
> > > "conceptualization" of a domain of interest. Surely, only
> > in few cases
> > > these conceptualizations are made explicit.
> > > --
> > >
> > > True. The difficulty is if there is no explicit ontology 
> or schema 
> > > for a given application, then there is nothing that can 
> be mapped TO
> 
> > > a common UO.  Hence, what is the value of a UO in this case?
> > 
> > Clearly almost zero, in this case. Maybe an UO can help "reverse 
> > engineering" the implicit conceptualization, though.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Nicola
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> > -----
> > Nicola Guarino
> > Co-Editor in Chief, Applied Ontology (IOS Press) Head, 
> Laboratory for 
> > Applied Ontology (LOA), ISTC-CNR Institute for Cognitive 
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