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To: "Upper Ontology Summit convention" <uos-convene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Uschold, Michael F" <michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 20:10:01 -0800
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This is promising, is there any empirical or anecdotal experience to
back up this claim?    (01)

Mike    (02)


-----Original Message-----
From: West, Matthew R SIPC-DFD/321 [mailto:matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:35 AM
To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
Subject: RE: [uos-convene] The Big Elephant...    (03)

Dear Mike and Nicola,    (04)

I can be stronger than that, having an upper ontology dramatically
reduces the cost of reverse engineering existing systems to discover
their ontology.    (05)

Regards    (06)

Matthew    (07)

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:uos-convene-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Nicola 
> Guarino
> Sent: 06 March 2006 14:12
> To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
> Subject: Re: [uos-convene] The Big Elephant...
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 2, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Uschold, Michael F wrote:
> 
> >
> > MIkeU said:
> >
> >> Oh, and by the way, the big elephant in the room is the fact that:
> >>
> >> It is the rarest of exceptions these days, that an application even    (08)

> >> HAS an ontology, but hey, for the sake of this summit, shall we all    (09)

> >> pretend that they do?
> >>
> >
> > Nicola Replied:
> >
> > Either implicit or explicit, every application has it's own 
> > "conceptualization" of a domain of interest. Surely, only
> in few cases
> > these conceptualizations are made explicit.
> > --
> >
> > True. The difficulty is if there is no explicit ontology or schema 
> > for a given application, then there is nothing that can be mapped TO    (010)

> > a common UO.  Hence, what is the value of a UO in this case?
> 
> Clearly almost zero, in this case. Maybe an UO can help "reverse 
> engineering" the implicit conceptualization, though.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nicola
> 
> 
> 
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