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I'm looking at the reviews and they basically summarize to 2 main points: (02)
1) NETWORK: Proposal does not create a network. ... The project is interesting
and valuable, but not really broad enough or "network" enough to meet the
criteria of the DataNet program. ... The proposal is very strong on vision and
rationale but doesn't appear to meet the program call for a data network--the
focus on ontologies is compelling and will hopefully find funding through
another directorate. (03)
2) DATA CURATION SERVICES: It is in my opinion too narrowly focused around
semantic technologies to be a real DataNet candidate. It is difficult to tell
from the submission what if any data storage, management, curation services are
to be offered to scientific data (as opposed to scientific ontologies). ...
does not address the preservation and curation of actual data sets created and
used by the community. (04)
There are some minor themes too. (05)
I think to win an NSF grant you need Excellents, Very Goods predominantly.
Fairs and Goods won't do it. (06)
Leo (07)
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Since I am I'm DC I could save you the trip. (012)
Of course I know there are few grants and lots of proposals, but the
game around the beltway typically benefits those who go the extra mile
to do the f2f. I have won many millions in the non-grant part of this
game, but I certainly bow to your expertise on the grant side of this
fence. (013)
K Goodier (014)
On Apr 17, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Ken Baclawski <kenb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: (015)
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> I could go to DC and speak with the PM F2F, but it would be best if
> I had
> a better idea of how we can deal with the issues we know about
> already.
>
> Generally speaking, the scores, even for a single reviewer, reflect
> all of
> the review criteria. To merit an overall score of "Excellent", one
> must be
> excellent on every criteron. In other words, we can't expect a
> weakness
> with respect to one of the review criteria to be counteracted by
> strength
> on another criterion. Remember that there are a lot of proposals
> and only
> a few grants.
>
> -- Ken
>
>> Sometimes you get some better ideas about the comments if you ask
>> for a
>> face-to-face feedback review. I was concerned that we only rated one
>> "Very Good"
>
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