Dear all, (01)
ideally we find slot for this that works for all of us - I won't be able to
participate on the 30th as I will be in the air flying to China. A brief
discussion in that call could be useful, otherwise we can use August to develop
our proposal a bit further and discuss a more refined version in the September
call. (02)
Best, Oliver (03)
On 24 Jul 2013, at 21:39, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote: (04)
> Dear Tills,
>
> Oops ... I did mean Tue 2013.09.03.
>
> We definitely want you around when we discuss this. We could try to
> tacle this at a later call (or even, briefly at least, if the right
> people are present) at the call next Tue (7/30) - OOR-Hackathon-n.03
> on "API".
>
> Regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Till Mossakowski
> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Peter,
>>
>> do you mean Tue 2013.09.03?
>> Then I am in Warsaw at a conference. Not sure whether I will be able to
>> participate, but maybe if suffices if Aleksandra and Oliver can.
>>
>> Best, Till
>
>
>> Am 24.07.2013 21:05, schrieb Peter Yim:
>>
>>> Dear Till & Aleksandra,
>>>
>>> Thank you. We can discuss this a bit more at our next OOR Team
>>> (admin/planning) conference call, which is scheduled for Tue
>>> 2013.09.02. Let's remember to include this into the agenda for that
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Till Mossakowski
>>> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Peter,
>>>>
>>>> this is a good idea!
>>>> In particular, the meta ontology could be refined at various places, but
>>>> this should only be done at those places where there are real ontologies
>>>> that wait for classification...
>>>>
>>>> Best, Till
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Am 23.07.2013 18:53, schrieb Peter Yim:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice work! Thank you, Till & Aleksandra.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that we have a good "starting point," we probably should devote a
>>>>> session (say, a Joint Session with interested collaborators), in the
>>>>> not-too-distant future, to discuss where to go, from here, and get
>>>>> input from the broader community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Till Mossakowski
>>>>> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aleksandra Sojic has created a first version of the meta ontology, see
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/blob/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> use "raw" for downloading and viewing with Protégé:
>>>>>> https://raw.github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This ontology provides a meta-classification that according to the
>>>>>> domain
>>>>>> subjects distributes domain-ontologies into the domain-specific
>>>>>> classes.
>>>>>> As
>>>>>> the reference classification we have considered several international
>>>>>> standards which are used to classify domain fields. The International
>>>>>> Standard Classification of Education (ISCED) has been selected as the
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> appropriate reference for the specification of the (subject) categories
>>>>>> within the OntoHub. ISCED is a member of the United Nations
>>>>>> International
>>>>>> Family of Economic and Social Classifications and is the reference
>>>>>> classification for organizing education programmes and related
>>>>>> qualifications by levels and fields of education (ref. ISCED). In
>>>>>> particular, we have used the last version of ISCED (the final draft
>>>>>> published in June 2013) as it provides a hierarchy of knowledge domains
>>>>>> suitable for covering comprehensively the corresponding
>>>>>> ontology-modelling
>>>>>> fields.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Domain-fields-ontology has to be developed further in order to
>>>>>> include
>>>>>> several other specifications, especially considering the domains which
>>>>>> experience a significant expansion in the ontology development, e.g.
>>>>>> Life
>>>>>> Sciences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please find attached a graphical visualisation of the recently
>>>>>> published
>>>>>> Domain-fields ontology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Till
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Am 29.05.2013 21:30, schrieb matthew lange:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We aren't taking the lead
>>>>>>> in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Watching this thread, and interested as well...do you have a reference
>>>>>>> for who is heading this up?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ray Fergerson
>>>>>>> <ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oliver,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Worth pointing out is that we (the NCBO team) don't feel that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> BioPortal categorization is very good. It should probably not be
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> the basis for anything. There are external efforts to produce a
>>>>>>> categorization system for the biomedical domain. We aren't
>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>> the lead
>>>>>>> in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> [mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Till
>>>>>>> Mossakowski
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:14 AM
>>>>>>> To: oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Cc: Oliver Kutz
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Categories for ontologies
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the interesting question is then: what happens if we federate
>>>>>>> BioPortal
>>>>>>> with SOCoP? We need a taxonomy including all the involved
>>>>>>> categories, such
>>>>>>> that in the ontology browser, all the BioPortal categories are
>>>>>>> combined
>>>>>>> into one category "biology" (which can be expanded into the
>>>>>>> BioPortal
>>>>>>> categories on demand).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 29.05.2013 08:53, schrieb Till Mossakowski:
>>>>>>>> Am 29.05.2013 00:29, schrieb John F Sowa:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/28/2013 4:27 PM, Till Mossakowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> After all, the user wants to use *one* ontology or
>>>>>>> classification
>>>>>>>>>> system for classifying ontologies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you mean "one classification system"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In BioPortal, when the user uploads a new ontology, (s)he can
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>> some categories classifying the ontology. When browsing all
>>>>>>>> ontologies, you can also filter them by category.
>>>>>>>> The possible categories are: Animal Development, Biological
>>>>>>> Process,
>>>>>>>> Human, Plant, Yeast, Cell etc. (Btw, not all categories
>>>>>>> returned
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> the REST service can be selected for browsing.) The OOR
>>>>>>> instance
>>>>>>>> http://mercury-ncbo.ornl.gov seems to (erroneously) use the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> categories In the OOR instance http://socop.oor.net, the
>>>>>>> categories
>>>>>>>> are (exhaustive
>>>>>>>> list): Commercial, Cultural, Defense, Financial, Geospatial,
>>>>>>>> Government, Literature, Metadata, Other, Process, Provenance,
>>>>>>> Science,
>>>>>>>> Social Networking, Standards, Technology, Upper Ontologies.
>>>>>>>> I now just wonder what we should do for Ontohub.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The number of different kinds of ontologies, their purposes,
>>>>>>> goals,
>>>>>>>>> applications, levels, logics, notations, uses, etc., is
>>>>>>> open-ended.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Suppose that somebody asked you to compare Cyc to BFO to the
>>>>>>> Good
>>>>>>>>> Relations ontology to schema.org <http://schema.org>. Where
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> would you begin? And why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is not about comparing ontologies. It is just that the
>>>>>>> "filter
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> category" dropdown box on the browsing web page needs to show
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> finite
>>>>>>>> list of options to the user...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best, Till
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> +49-421-218-64226 <tel:%2B49-421-218-64226>
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