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Re: [oor-forum] Categories for ontologies

To: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Till Mossakowski <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:29:47 +0200
Message-id: <51F02B2B.1000203@xxxxxxx>
Dear Peter,    (01)

do you mean Tue 2013.09.03?
Then I am in Warsaw at a conference. Not sure whether I will be able to 
participate, but maybe if suffices if Aleksandra and Oliver can.    (02)

Best, Till    (03)

Am 24.07.2013 21:05, schrieb Peter Yim:
> Dear Till & Aleksandra,
>
> Thank you. We can discuss this a bit more at our next OOR Team
> (admin/planning) conference call, which is scheduled for Tue
> 2013.09.02. Let's remember to include this into the agenda for that
> meeting.
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Till Mossakowski
> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Peter,
>>
>> this is a good idea!
>> In particular, the meta ontology could be refined at various places, but
>> this should only be done at those places where there are real ontologies
>> that wait for classification...
>>
>> Best, Till
>
>
>> Am 23.07.2013 18:53, schrieb Peter Yim:
>>
>>> Nice work! Thank you, Till & Aleksandra.
>>>
>>> Now that we have a good "starting point," we probably should devote a
>>> session (say, a Joint Session with interested collaborators), in the
>>> not-too-distant future, to discuss where to go, from here, and get
>>> input from the broader community.
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> --
>
>
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Till Mossakowski
>>> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Aleksandra Sojic has created a first version of the meta ontology, see
>>>> https://github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/blob/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>> -
>>>> use "raw" for downloading and viewing with Protégé:
>>>> https://raw.github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>>
>>>> This ontology provides a meta-classification that according to the domain
>>>> subjects distributes domain-ontologies into the domain-specific classes.
>>>> As
>>>> the reference classification we have considered several international
>>>> standards which are used to classify domain fields.  The International
>>>> Standard Classification of Education (ISCED) has been selected as the
>>>> most
>>>> appropriate reference for the specification of the (subject) categories
>>>> within the OntoHub. ISCED is a member of the United Nations International
>>>> Family of Economic and Social Classifications and is the reference
>>>> classification for organizing education programmes and related
>>>> qualifications by levels and fields of education (ref. ISCED). In
>>>> particular, we have used the last version of ISCED (the final draft
>>>> published in June 2013) as it provides a hierarchy of knowledge domains
>>>> suitable for covering comprehensively the corresponding
>>>> ontology-modelling
>>>> fields.
>>>>
>>>> The Domain-fields-ontology has to be developed further in order to
>>>> include
>>>> several other specifications, especially considering the domains which
>>>> experience a significant expansion in the ontology development, e.g. Life
>>>> Sciences.
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached a graphical visualisation of the recently published
>>>> Domain-fields ontology.
>>>>
>>>> Best, Till
>
>
>>>> Am 29.05.2013 21:30, schrieb matthew lange:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       We aren't taking the lead
>>>>>       in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>>> does
>>>>>       arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Watching this thread, and interested as well...do you have a reference
>>>>> for who is heading this up?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ray Fergerson
>>>>> <ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       Oliver,
>>>>>
>>>>>       Worth pointing out is that we (the NCBO team) don't feel that the
>>>>>       current
>>>>>       BioPortal categorization is very good. It should probably not be
>>>>> used
>>>>> as
>>>>>       the basis for anything. There are external efforts to produce a
>>>>>       categorization system for the biomedical domain. We aren't taking
>>>>>       the lead
>>>>>       in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>>> does
>>>>>       arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Ray
>
>
>>>>>       -----Original Message-----
>>>>>       From: oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>       <mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>       [mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>       <mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Till
>>>>>       Mossakowski
>>>>>       Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:14 AM
>>>>>       To: oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>       Cc: Oliver Kutz
>>>>>       Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Categories for ontologies
>>>>>
>>>>>       P.S.
>>>>>
>>>>>       the interesting question is then: what happens if we federate
>>>>> BioPortal
>>>>>       with SOCoP? We need a taxonomy including all the involved
>>>>>       categories, such
>>>>>       that in the ontology browser, all the BioPortal categories are
>>>>> combined
>>>>>       into one category "biology" (which can be expanded into the
>>>>> BioPortal
>>>>>       categories on demand).
>>>>>
>>>>>       Till
>>>>>
>>>>>       Am 29.05.2013 08:53, schrieb Till Mossakowski:
>>>>>        > Am 29.05.2013 00:29, schrieb John F Sowa:
>>>>>        >> On 5/28/2013 4:27 PM, Till Mossakowski wrote:
>>>>>        >>> After all, the user wants to use *one* ontology or
>>>>> classification
>>>>>        >>> system for classifying ontologies.
>>>>>        >>
>>>>>        >> What do you mean "one classification system"?
>>>>>        >
>>>>>        > In BioPortal, when the user uploads a new ontology, (s)he can
>>>>> provide
>>>>>        > some categories classifying the ontology. When browsing all
>>>>>        > ontologies, you can also filter them by category.
>>>>>        > The possible categories are: Animal Development, Biological
>>>>> Process,
>>>>>        > Human, Plant, Yeast, Cell etc. (Btw, not all categories returned
>>>>> by
>>>>>        > the REST service can be selected for browsing.) The OOR instance
>>>>>        > http://mercury-ncbo.ornl.gov seems to (erroneously) use the same
>>>>>        > categories In the OOR instance http://socop.oor.net, the
>>>>> categories
>>>>>        > are (exhaustive
>>>>>        > list): Commercial, Cultural, Defense, Financial, Geospatial,
>>>>>        > Government, Literature, Metadata, Other, Process, Provenance,
>>>>>       Science,
>>>>>        > Social Networking, Standards, Technology, Upper Ontologies.
>>>>>        > I now just wonder what we should do for Ontohub.
>>>>>        >
>>>>>        >> The number of different kinds of ontologies, their purposes,
>>>>> goals,
>>>>>        >> applications, levels, logics, notations, uses, etc., is
>>>>> open-ended.
>>>>>        >>
>>>>>        >> Suppose that somebody asked you to compare Cyc to BFO to the
>>>>> Good
>>>>>        >> Relations ontology to schema.org <http://schema.org>.  Where
>>>>>
>>>>>       would you begin?  And why?
>>>>>        >
>>>>>        > It is not about comparing ontologies. It is just that the
>>>>> "filter
>>>>> by
>>>>>        > category" dropdown box on the browsing web page needs to show a
>>>>>       finite
>>>>>        > list of options to the user...
>>>>>        >
>>>>>        > Best, Till
>>>>>        >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       --
>>>>>       Prof. Dr. Till Mossakowski  Cartesium, room 2.51 Phone
>>>>>       +49-421-218-64226 <tel:%2B49-421-218-64226>
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>>>>>
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>>>> Prof. Dr. Till Mossakowski  Cartesium, room 2.51 Phone +49-421-218-64226
>>>> DFKI GmbH Bremen                             Fax +49-421-218-9864226
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>>
>> --
>> Prof. Dr. Till Mossakowski  Cartesium, room 2.51 Phone +49-421-218-64226
>> DFKI GmbH Bremen                             Fax +49-421-218-9864226
>> Cyber-Physical Systems                      Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx
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>> supervisory board: Prof. Hans A. Aukes (chair)
>> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313    (04)


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DFKI GmbH Bremen                             Fax +49-421-218-9864226
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http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~till/    (05)

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz GmbH
principal office, *not* the address for mail etc.!!!:
Trippstadter Str. 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern
management board: Prof. Wolfgang Wahlster (chair), Dr. Walter Olthoff
supervisory board: Prof. Hans A. Aukes (chair)
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313    (06)

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