Dear Tills, (01)
Oops ... I did mean Tue 2013.09.03. (02)
We definitely want you around when we discuss this. We could try to
tacle this at a later call (or even, briefly at least, if the right
people are present) at the call next Tue (7/30) - OOR-Hackathon-n.03
on "API". (03)
Regards. =ppy
-- (04)
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Till Mossakowski
<Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
> do you mean Tue 2013.09.03?
> Then I am in Warsaw at a conference. Not sure whether I will be able to
> participate, but maybe if suffices if Aleksandra and Oliver can.
>
> Best, Till (05)
> Am 24.07.2013 21:05, schrieb Peter Yim:
>
>> Dear Till & Aleksandra,
>>
>> Thank you. We can discuss this a bit more at our next OOR Team
>> (admin/planning) conference call, which is scheduled for Tue
>> 2013.09.02. Let's remember to include this into the agenda for that
>> meeting.
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Till Mossakowski
>> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Peter,
>>>
>>> this is a good idea!
>>> In particular, the meta ontology could be refined at various places, but
>>> this should only be done at those places where there are real ontologies
>>> that wait for classification...
>>>
>>> Best, Till
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 23.07.2013 18:53, schrieb Peter Yim:
>>>
>>>> Nice work! Thank you, Till & Aleksandra.
>>>>
>>>> Now that we have a good "starting point," we probably should devote a
>>>> session (say, a Joint Session with interested collaborators), in the
>>>> not-too-distant future, to discuss where to go, from here, and get
>>>> input from the broader community.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Till Mossakowski
>>>> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Aleksandra Sojic has created a first version of the meta ontology, see
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/blob/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>>> -
>>>>> use "raw" for downloading and viewing with Protégé:
>>>>> https://raw.github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>>>
>>>>> This ontology provides a meta-classification that according to the
>>>>> domain
>>>>> subjects distributes domain-ontologies into the domain-specific
>>>>> classes.
>>>>> As
>>>>> the reference classification we have considered several international
>>>>> standards which are used to classify domain fields. The International
>>>>> Standard Classification of Education (ISCED) has been selected as the
>>>>> most
>>>>> appropriate reference for the specification of the (subject) categories
>>>>> within the OntoHub. ISCED is a member of the United Nations
>>>>> International
>>>>> Family of Economic and Social Classifications and is the reference
>>>>> classification for organizing education programmes and related
>>>>> qualifications by levels and fields of education (ref. ISCED). In
>>>>> particular, we have used the last version of ISCED (the final draft
>>>>> published in June 2013) as it provides a hierarchy of knowledge domains
>>>>> suitable for covering comprehensively the corresponding
>>>>> ontology-modelling
>>>>> fields.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Domain-fields-ontology has to be developed further in order to
>>>>> include
>>>>> several other specifications, especially considering the domains which
>>>>> experience a significant expansion in the ontology development, e.g.
>>>>> Life
>>>>> Sciences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please find attached a graphical visualisation of the recently
>>>>> published
>>>>> Domain-fields ontology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best, Till
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Am 29.05.2013 21:30, schrieb matthew lange:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We aren't taking the lead
>>>>>> in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Watching this thread, and interested as well...do you have a reference
>>>>>> for who is heading this up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ray Fergerson
>>>>>> <ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oliver,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Worth pointing out is that we (the NCBO team) don't feel that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> BioPortal categorization is very good. It should probably not be
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the basis for anything. There are external efforts to produce a
>>>>>> categorization system for the biomedical domain. We aren't
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>> the lead
>>>>>> in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> [mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:oor-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Till
>>>>>> Mossakowski
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:14 AM
>>>>>> To: oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Cc: Oliver Kutz
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Categories for ontologies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the interesting question is then: what happens if we federate
>>>>>> BioPortal
>>>>>> with SOCoP? We need a taxonomy including all the involved
>>>>>> categories, such
>>>>>> that in the ontology browser, all the BioPortal categories are
>>>>>> combined
>>>>>> into one category "biology" (which can be expanded into the
>>>>>> BioPortal
>>>>>> categories on demand).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 29.05.2013 08:53, schrieb Till Mossakowski:
>>>>>> > Am 29.05.2013 00:29, schrieb John F Sowa:
>>>>>> >> On 5/28/2013 4:27 PM, Till Mossakowski wrote:
>>>>>> >>> After all, the user wants to use *one* ontology or
>>>>>> classification
>>>>>> >>> system for classifying ontologies.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> What do you mean "one classification system"?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In BioPortal, when the user uploads a new ontology, (s)he can
>>>>>> provide
>>>>>> > some categories classifying the ontology. When browsing all
>>>>>> > ontologies, you can also filter them by category.
>>>>>> > The possible categories are: Animal Development, Biological
>>>>>> Process,
>>>>>> > Human, Plant, Yeast, Cell etc. (Btw, not all categories
>>>>>> returned
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> > the REST service can be selected for browsing.) The OOR
>>>>>> instance
>>>>>> > http://mercury-ncbo.ornl.gov seems to (erroneously) use the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> > categories In the OOR instance http://socop.oor.net, the
>>>>>> categories
>>>>>> > are (exhaustive
>>>>>> > list): Commercial, Cultural, Defense, Financial, Geospatial,
>>>>>> > Government, Literature, Metadata, Other, Process, Provenance,
>>>>>> Science,
>>>>>> > Social Networking, Standards, Technology, Upper Ontologies.
>>>>>> > I now just wonder what we should do for Ontohub.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> The number of different kinds of ontologies, their purposes,
>>>>>> goals,
>>>>>> >> applications, levels, logics, notations, uses, etc., is
>>>>>> open-ended.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Suppose that somebody asked you to compare Cyc to BFO to the
>>>>>> Good
>>>>>> >> Relations ontology to schema.org <http://schema.org>. Where
>>>>>>
>>>>>> would you begin? And why?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It is not about comparing ontologies. It is just that the
>>>>>> "filter
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> > category" dropdown box on the browsing web page needs to show
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> finite
>>>>>> > list of options to the user...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best, Till
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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