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Re: [oor-forum] Categories for ontologies

To: Till Mossakowski <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx>, Aleksandra Sojic <aleksandrasojic@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:05:35 -0700
Message-id: <CAGdcwD00USEqnv-SAy69i8zMUW3E12joVSiGS8v+bzcY2LY2cg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Dear Till & Aleksandra,    (01)

Thank you. We can discuss this a bit more at our next OOR Team
(admin/planning) conference call, which is scheduled for Tue
2013.09.02. Let's remember to include this into the agenda for that
meeting.    (02)

Thanks & regards. =ppy
--    (03)


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Till Mossakowski
<Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
> this is a good idea!
> In particular, the meta ontology could be refined at various places, but
> this should only be done at those places where there are real ontologies
> that wait for classification...
>
> Best, Till    (04)


> Am 23.07.2013 18:53, schrieb Peter Yim:
>
>> Nice work! Thank you, Till & Aleksandra.
>>
>> Now that we have a good "starting point," we probably should devote a
>> session (say, a Joint Session with interested collaborators), in the
>> not-too-distant future, to discuss where to go, from here, and get
>> input from the broader community.
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> --    (05)


>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Till Mossakowski
>> <Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Aleksandra Sojic has created a first version of the meta ontology, see
>>> https://github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/blob/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>> -
>>> use "raw" for downloading and viewing with Protégé:
>>> https://raw.github.com/ontohub/OOR_Ontohub_API/master/Domain_fields.owl
>>>
>>> This ontology provides a meta-classification that according to the domain
>>> subjects distributes domain-ontologies into the domain-specific classes.
>>> As
>>> the reference classification we have considered several international
>>> standards which are used to classify domain fields.  The International
>>> Standard Classification of Education (ISCED) has been selected as the
>>> most
>>> appropriate reference for the specification of the (subject) categories
>>> within the OntoHub. ISCED is a member of the United Nations International
>>> Family of Economic and Social Classifications and is the reference
>>> classification for organizing education programmes and related
>>> qualifications by levels and fields of education (ref. ISCED). In
>>> particular, we have used the last version of ISCED (the final draft
>>> published in June 2013) as it provides a hierarchy of knowledge domains
>>> suitable for covering comprehensively the corresponding
>>> ontology-modelling
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> The Domain-fields-ontology has to be developed further in order to
>>> include
>>> several other specifications, especially considering the domains which
>>> experience a significant expansion in the ontology development, e.g. Life
>>> Sciences.
>>>
>>> Please find attached a graphical visualisation of the recently published
>>> Domain-fields ontology.
>>>
>>> Best, Till    (06)


>>> Am 29.05.2013 21:30, schrieb matthew lange:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      We aren't taking the lead
>>>>      in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>> does
>>>>      arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>
>>>> Watching this thread, and interested as well...do you have a reference
>>>> for who is heading this up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Ray Fergerson
>>>> <ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ray.fergerson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Oliver,
>>>>
>>>>      Worth pointing out is that we (the NCBO team) don't feel that the
>>>>      current
>>>>      BioPortal categorization is very good. It should probably not be
>>>> used
>>>> as
>>>>      the basis for anything. There are external efforts to produce a
>>>>      categorization system for the biomedical domain. We aren't taking
>>>>      the lead
>>>>      in this categorization effort but if a standard (defacto or not)
>>>> does
>>>>      arise we would be interested in adapting our system to use it.
>>>>
>>>>      Ray    (07)


>>>>      -----Original Message-----
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>>>>      Mossakowski
>>>>      Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:14 AM
>>>>      To: oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>      Cc: Oliver Kutz
>>>>      Subject: Re: [oor-forum] Categories for ontologies
>>>>
>>>>      P.S.
>>>>
>>>>      the interesting question is then: what happens if we federate
>>>> BioPortal
>>>>      with SOCoP? We need a taxonomy including all the involved
>>>>      categories, such
>>>>      that in the ontology browser, all the BioPortal categories are
>>>> combined
>>>>      into one category "biology" (which can be expanded into the
>>>> BioPortal
>>>>      categories on demand).
>>>>
>>>>      Till
>>>>
>>>>      Am 29.05.2013 08:53, schrieb Till Mossakowski:
>>>>       > Am 29.05.2013 00:29, schrieb John F Sowa:
>>>>       >> On 5/28/2013 4:27 PM, Till Mossakowski wrote:
>>>>       >>> After all, the user wants to use *one* ontology or
>>>> classification
>>>>       >>> system for classifying ontologies.
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >> What do you mean "one classification system"?
>>>>       >
>>>>       > In BioPortal, when the user uploads a new ontology, (s)he can
>>>> provide
>>>>       > some categories classifying the ontology. When browsing all
>>>>       > ontologies, you can also filter them by category.
>>>>       > The possible categories are: Animal Development, Biological
>>>> Process,
>>>>       > Human, Plant, Yeast, Cell etc. (Btw, not all categories returned
>>>> by
>>>>       > the REST service can be selected for browsing.) The OOR instance
>>>>       > http://mercury-ncbo.ornl.gov seems to (erroneously) use the same
>>>>       > categories In the OOR instance http://socop.oor.net, the
>>>> categories
>>>>       > are (exhaustive
>>>>       > list): Commercial, Cultural, Defense, Financial, Geospatial,
>>>>       > Government, Literature, Metadata, Other, Process, Provenance,
>>>>      Science,
>>>>       > Social Networking, Standards, Technology, Upper Ontologies.
>>>>       > I now just wonder what we should do for Ontohub.
>>>>       >
>>>>       >> The number of different kinds of ontologies, their purposes,
>>>> goals,
>>>>       >> applications, levels, logics, notations, uses, etc., is
>>>> open-ended.
>>>>       >>
>>>>       >> Suppose that somebody asked you to compare Cyc to BFO to the
>>>> Good
>>>>       >> Relations ontology to schema.org <http://schema.org>.  Where
>>>>
>>>>      would you begin?  And why?
>>>>       >
>>>>       > It is not about comparing ontologies. It is just that the
>>>> "filter
>>>> by
>>>>       > category" dropdown box on the browsing web page needs to show a
>>>>      finite
>>>>       > list of options to the user...
>>>>       >
>>>>       > Best, Till
>>>>       >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> DFKI GmbH Bremen                             Fax +49-421-218-9864226
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> Prof. Dr. Till Mossakowski  Cartesium, room 2.51 Phone +49-421-218-64226
> DFKI GmbH Bremen                             Fax +49-421-218-9864226
> Cyber-Physical Systems                      Till.Mossakowski@xxxxxxx
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> management board: Prof. Wolfgang Wahlster (chair), Dr. Walter Olthoff
> supervisory board: Prof. Hans A. Aukes (chair)
> Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313    (08)

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