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Re: [oor-forum] Defining "Ontology Repository" (maybe "Ontology Registry

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From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:33:24 -0600
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At 8:14 AM -0500 1/24/08, Luis Bermudez wrote:
Hi Peter, et. al.

sorry I missed the call..

To complement.. ISO 19135:2005 defines "specifies procedures to be 
followed in establishing, maintaining and publishing registers of 
unique, unambiguous and permanent identifier" It contains definitions, 
such as:

OK, interpreting this in Web terms:

registration:
assignment of a permanent, unique, and unambiguous identifier to an item

A URI unambiguously identifies a SWeb ontology and provides a way to access it


register:
set of files containing identifiers assigned to items with 
descriptions of the associated items

The use of "files" is archaic now. Ignoring that, a list of URIs as hyperlinks in an HTML document would seem to satisfy this.


registry:
information system on which a register is maintained

That is the Web  itself; or if you prefer, a particular website such as http://www.daml.org/ontologies/


register owner:
organization that establishes a register

The owner of the website.

register manager:
organization to which management of a register has been delegated by 
the register owner

yadda yadda.

..


One of the issues is identifying the item being register:
1) A resource
2) A triple
3) A graph
4) An ontology
5) ???

So, "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and relate 
information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed.", in ISO 
words will be:

An ontology repository is an ontology registry or information system 
on which a register of ontologies is maintained.

Like many ISO definitions, this seems to be completely vacuous, or possibly wrong. (A repository is a registry?? Surely not.)

Pat


- Luis


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On Jan 23, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Peter Yim wrote:

> I concur, Lee. In fact, I was hoping we would have come to closure on
> this at the call today (but unfortunately, we did not.)
>
> Since we only had 12 people on the call (out of the 38 that are
> subscribed to the list), it does help to get buyin from the entire
> team. If we don't have further objections (which I hope we don't) we
> could just summarily adopt the definition that the meeting
> participants came up with today.
>
> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 10:08 PM EST, Lee Feigenbaum <lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>> Peter Yim wrote Jan 23, 2008 12:02 PM PST:
>>>> In particular, were made an attempt (and came close) to adopting
>>>> a  definition for "ontology repository" (possibly even "ontology
>>>> registry"), but decided to put this up for asynchronous discussion
>>>> deliberation due to time constraints.
>>>
>>> Ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR/ConferenceCall_2008_01_23#nid17US
>>>
>>> We were close ... (and have got to):
>>>
>>> "An ontology repository is a facility where ontologies and related
>>> information artifacts can be stored, retrieved and managed."
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> I find this definition perfectly acceptable.
>
>>> Let's open this up for discussion and then put it to a vote after 7
>>> calendar days (from the time-stamp of this message).
>>>
>>> Feel free to attempt defining "ontology registry" or "registry" too.
>>> If we are getting close, we'll adopt that as well.
>
>> While I found the discussion today quite interesting, I'm not sure 
>> how
>> important it is to our going forward to define registry or ontology
>> registry itself. I think there was a consensus understanding in 
>> general
>> of the distinction between a repository and a registry -- if we 
>> agree on
>> a definition for a repository (which is our end goal, if I understand
>> the project correctly :-), then perhaps we do not need to belabor a
>> definition of ontology registry as well?
>>
>> Lee
>
> [ppy]  I concur, Lee. In fact, I was hoping we would have come to
> closure on this at the call today (but unfortunately, we did not.)
>
> Since we only had 12 people on the call (out of the 38 that are
> subscribed to the list), it does help to get buyin from the entire
> team. If we don't have further objections (which I hope we don't) we
> could just summarily adopt the definition that the meeting
> participants came up with today.
>
> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> --
>
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