Gentlemen,
I love communicating with everyone, but guess I got on the list for emails and
the ongoing discussion.
Please I would like to ask to remove my address from the ongoing stream of
messaging.
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Warmest regards,
Marc
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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 4:25 PM
To: Prometheus Computing
Cc: Ontology Summit 2011 discussion
Subject: EXT :Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft
review session - Thu 2011.04.07.
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Hi Frederic,
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The document is the Ontology Summit 2011 Communique from which the
excerpt is drawn. It is the responsibility of the lead writers, where
they discuss it and with whom. This thread is taking place on the
Ontology-Summit list, so I am sure you are free you are free to comment
on this excerpt. However, the overall document itself is a work in
progress. I have access to it because I am a co-champion of one of the 5
Tracks associated with the theme of this year's summit: "Making the Case
for Ontology." However, I am not one of the lead writers, so I would not
feel right about sharing it on this list. I expect that Communique lead
writers may see this thread, and I would defer to one of them or else
the Summit Leads, Steve Ray and Nicola Guarino, or the provider of the
ontolog-forum ,Peter Yim of CIM3, to answer your question.
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Sorry. Hopefully someone among those I've cited will step forward and
address this.
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Cheers,
Rex
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On 4/8/11 9:40 AM, Prometheus Computing wrote:
> Hi Rex,
>
> I just signed up to to the ontology summit and it looks Like I have been
>added to th emailing list.
>
> This is great but I now get emails where you talk about a document I don't
>have access to or don't know where to get.
>
> Could you point me to where I could get this document or I am not supposed to
>receive these emails?
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Frederic
>
> Sent from my phone
>
> Frederic de Vaulx
> Program Manager
> Prometheus Computing LLC
> 301-975-2084
>
> On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:25, Rex Brooks<rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael, Todd, All,
>>
>> Phrase in middle of third paragraph should probably be "ever more
>> important".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rex
>>
>> On 4/7/11 9:29 AM, Todd J Schneider wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> Here's a slight revision of Ali's suggestion.
>>>
>>> Every person, organization or system has an ontology – the
>things presumed
>>> to exist in the world and how they behave. Interactions with the world are
>>> based on these internal ontologies. Indeed, these ontologies pervade and
>>> underpin our deliberations, inform our decisions and guide our actions.
>>>
>>> In large socio-technical systems, such as companies or organizations, each
>>> person, each technological artefact and system carries with it a view of
>>> the world relevant to its responsibilities in this context. Operations and
>>> interactions in such environments entails reconciling and streamlining
>>> these multiple sometimes conflicting and often tacit ontologies.
>>>
>>> Growing complexity and a need for smarter use of resources and solutions
>>> that cut across silos, means that it has become ever important to make
>>> explicit these implicit ontologies thereby easing interoperability and
>>> improving operational effectiveness.
>>>
>>> Concurrently, advances in computing, networking technologies and the
>>> Internet means that it is possible to effectively use ontologies to
>>> address the increasing array of socio-technical problems. Moreover, in
>>> recent years, we have witnessed the increased maturation and transition of
>>> ontology from academia to industry and government. The time is ripe to
>>> know what you know and share it with others.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> Michael F Uschold<uschold@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:
>>> Todd J Schneider<todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date:
>>> 04/07/2011 12:07 PM
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review
>>> session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Todd J Schneider<
>>> todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> I think what I suggested works very nicely with
>>> Ali's suggestion.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> Michael F Uschold<uschold@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:
>>> Todd J Schneider<todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc:
>>> Ontology Summit 2011 discussion<ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date:
>>> 04/07/2011 11:49 AM
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review
>>> session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Todd,
>>>
>>> I agree that having the semantics explicit it a critical piece. I recently
>>> starting thinkg of it as having date or systems "wear their meaning on
>>> their sleeve" (see my slideshare pitch slide 4) . I think it belongs in
>>> the explanation of how ontology works, rather than being in the original
>>> 'hook'.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Todd J Schneider<
>>> todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I left out the connecting notion in my suggestion
>>> to use 'interoperability' as the starting point.
>>> Interoperability necessarily requires some degree
>>> of common semantics. Explicit semantics simplifies
>>> the task of making systems interoperable. Having
>>> interoperable systems allows for greater agility
>>> (when things need to change). Ontologies provide
>>> for explicit semantics.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> Todd Schneider<tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:
>>> Ontology Summit 2011 discussion<ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date:
>>> 04/07/2011 10:06 AM
>>> Subject:
>>> Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review
>>> session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>> Sent by:
>>> ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Might suggest a tangential introduction, Interoperability.
>>> The use of ontologies helps to make the semantics of a
>>> system explicit. Explicitness is a core net-centric principle.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 4/7/2011 1:20 AM, Michael F Uschold wrote:
>>>>> Did you get a chance to put together the introduction paragraphs?
>>>> I'm still working on it.
>>>>
>>>> As you may have noticed, I can write 3 paragraphs very quickly in
>>>> response to an email note. But trying to think of a good "hook"
>>>> for a title of an article or an opening paragraph of the article
>>>> is extremely difficult.
>>>>
>>>> I'll sleep on it. If I can think of anything when I wake up, I'll
>>>> type it up. But right now, I can't think of what to say.
>>>>
>>>> Exercise for the readers:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Can anybody think of some idea that would really grab the readers'
>>>> attention -- i.e., the readers we want to reach.
>>>>
>>>> 2. It's not necessary to phrase that idea in a catchy way. The first
>>>> thing that comes to mind is rarely a good hook, but it can be a
>>>> starting point to start the thinking process.
>>>>
>>>> 3. The second paragraph should be the "anecdote", which develops the
>>>> idea. That could consist of one or more examples of promising
>>>> applications for ontology, along the lines we discussed in our
>>>> previous telecon.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Then the third paragraph generalizes the examples into a principle
>>>> that could be applied to many things similar to the ones given
>>>> in the anecdote(s).
>>>>
>>>> Notice that I just wrote up the material in this note very quickly.
>>>> That is because I was talking about something that I had thought
>>>> about years ago.
>>>>
>>>> But as I said in earlier telecons, my mind is a blank when it comes
>>>> to selling ontology. I can write pages and pages *about* ontology,
>>>> but I don't really know how to sell it.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
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