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Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review sess

To: Prometheus Computing <f.devaulx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ontology Summit 2011 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:29:20 -0700
Message-id: <BANLkTimZdJqT=tAoKjrvxscChVzHEb9SnA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Frederic (and those in a similar situation),    (01)


The discuss Rex is having relates to that which was the community was
extensively discussed in yesterday's virtual session
- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_04_07    (02)

Under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_04_07#nid2RL0
The [3-snapshot] link will get you a snapshot of the draft communique
(and associated comments) as of the beginning of our session.
The [4-wip] is the work-in-progress draft Communique on google-doc. I
believe permissions is set to "Anyone who has the link can view"
(although you'd probably need a gmail account to get into google-doc).    (03)

Feel free to let us know if you are still running into issues.    (04)


Thanks & regards.  =ppy
--    (05)


On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Frederic,
>
> The document is the Ontology Summit 2011 Communique from which the
> excerpt is drawn. It is the responsibility of the lead writers, where
> they discuss it and with whom. This thread is taking place on the
> Ontology-Summit list, so I am sure you are free you are free to comment
> on this excerpt. However, the overall document itself is a work in
> progress. I have access to it because I am a co-champion of one of the 5
> Tracks associated with the theme of this year's summit: "Making the Case
> for Ontology." However, I am not one of the lead writers, so I would not
> feel right about sharing it on this list. I expect that Communique lead
> writers may see this thread, and I would defer to one of them or else
> the Summit Leads, Steve Ray and Nicola Guarino, or the provider of the
> ontolog-forum ,Peter Yim of CIM3, to answer your question.
>
> Sorry. Hopefully someone among those I've cited will step forward and
> address this.
>
> Cheers,
> Rex
>
> On 4/8/11 9:40 AM, Prometheus Computing wrote:
>> Hi Rex,
>>
>> I just signed up to to the ontology summit and it looks Like I have been 
>added to th emailing list.
>>
>> This is great but I now get emails where you talk about a document I don't 
>have access to or don't know where to get.
>>
>> Could you point me to where I could get this document or I am not supposed 
>to receive these emails?
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Frederic
>>
>> Sent from my phone
>>
>> Frederic de Vaulx
>> Program Manager
>> Prometheus Computing LLC
>> 301-975-2084
>>
>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:25, Rex Brooks<rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Michael, Todd, All,
>>>
>>> Phrase in middle of third paragraph should probably be "ever more
>>> important".
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rex
>>>
>>> On 4/7/11 9:29 AM, Todd J Schneider wrote:
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Here's a slight revision of Ali's suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Every person, organization or system has an ontology – the things 
>presumed
>>>> to exist in the world and how they behave. Interactions with the world are
>>>> based on these internal ontologies. Indeed, these ontologies pervade and
>>>> underpin our deliberations, inform our decisions and guide our actions.
>>>>
>>>> In large socio-technical systems, such as companies or organizations, each
>>>> person, each technological artefact and system carries with it a view of
>>>> the world relevant to its responsibilities in this context. Operations and
>>>> interactions in such environments entails reconciling and streamlining
>>>> these multiple sometimes conflicting and often tacit ontologies.
>>>>
>>>> Growing complexity and a need for smarter use of resources and solutions
>>>> that cut across silos, means that it has become ever important to make
>>>> explicit these implicit ontologies thereby easing interoperability and
>>>> improving operational effectiveness.
>>>>
>>>> Concurrently, advances in computing, networking technologies and the
>>>> Internet means that it is possible to effectively use ontologies to
>>>> address the increasing array of socio-technical problems. Moreover, in
>>>> recent years, we have witnessed the increased maturation and transition of
>>>> ontology from academia to industry and government. The time is ripe to
>>>> know what you know and share it with others.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From:
>>>> Michael F Uschold<uschold@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:
>>>> Todd J Schneider<todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date:
>>>> 04/07/2011 12:07 PM
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review
>>>> session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I agree.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Todd J Schneider<
>>>> todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> I think what I suggested works very nicely with
>>>> Ali's suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From:
>>>> Michael F Uschold<uschold@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:
>>>> Todd J Schneider<todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Ontology Summit 2011 discussion<ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date:
>>>> 04/07/2011 11:49 AM
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review
>>>> session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Todd,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that having the semantics explicit it a critical piece. I recently
>>>> starting thinkg of it as having date or systems "wear their meaning on
>>>> their sleeve" (see my slideshare pitch slide 4) . I think it belongs in
>>>> the explanation of how ontology works, rather than being in the original
>>>> 'hook'.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Todd J Schneider<
>>>> todd.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I left out the connecting notion in my suggestion
>>>> to use 'interoperability' as the starting point.
>>>> Interoperability necessarily requires some degree
>>>> of common semantics. Explicit semantics simplifies
>>>> the task of making systems interoperable. Having
>>>> interoperable systems allows for greater agility
>>>> (when things need to change). Ontologies provide
>>>> for explicit semantics.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From:
>>>> Todd Schneider<tjschneider@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:
>>>> Ontology Summit 2011 discussion<ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date:
>>>> 04/07/2011 10:06 AM
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review
>>>> session - Thu 2011.04.07.
>>>> Sent by:
>>>> ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> Might suggest a tangential introduction, Interoperability.
>>>> The use of ontologies helps to make the semantics of a
>>>> system explicit. Explicitness is a core net-centric principle.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/7/2011 1:20 AM, Michael F Uschold wrote:
>>>>>> Did you get a chance to put together the introduction paragraphs?
>>>>> I'm still working on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you may have noticed, I can write 3 paragraphs very quickly in
>>>>> response to an email note. But trying to think of a good "hook"
>>>>> for a title of an article or an opening paragraph of the article
>>>>> is extremely difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll sleep on it. If I can think of anything when I wake up, I'll
>>>>> type it up. But right now, I can't think of what to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exercise for the readers:
>>>>>
>>>>>  1. Can anybody think of some idea that would really grab the readers'
>>>>>    attention -- i.e., the readers we want to reach.
>>>>>
>>>>>  2. It's not necessary to phrase that idea in a catchy way. The first
>>>>>    thing that comes to mind is rarely a good hook, but it can be a
>>>>>    starting point to start the thinking process.
>>>>>
>>>>>  3. The second paragraph should be the "anecdote", which develops the
>>>>>    idea. That could consist of one or more examples of promising
>>>>>    applications for ontology, along the lines we discussed in our
>>>>>    previous telecon.
>>>>>
>>>>>  4. Then the third paragraph generalizes the examples into a principle
>>>>>    that could be applied to many things similar to the ones given
>>>>>    in the anecdote(s).
>>>>>
>>>>> Notice that I just wrote up the material in this note very quickly.
>>>>> That is because I was talking about something that I had thought
>>>>> about years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> But as I said in earlier telecons, my mind is a blank when it comes
>>>>> to selling ontology. I can write pages and pages *about* ontology,
>>>>> but I don't really know how to sell it.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Michael Uschold, PhD
>>>>  Senior Ontology Consultant, Semantic Arts
>>>>  LinkedIn: http://tr.im/limfu
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>>>>
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