ontology-summit
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [ontology-summit] An example of the worth of ontology development

To: Ontology Summit 2011 discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Strawn, George" <Strawn@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 22:32:13 -0500
Message-id: <9F770C7E-EE0E-4C3E-A310-86C2324B3449@xxxxxxxxx>
Brand, This sounds interesting.  Maybe we could chat about it sometime?  
Cheers, George
    (01)


Sent from my iPad
    (02)

On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:55 PM, "Brand Niemann" <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
    (03)

> Arun (and all), I have seen a demo of what Chuck has developed and was very
> impressed! Best regards, Brand

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chuck Rehberg

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 5:28 PM

> To: arun@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Ontology Summit 2011 discussion'

> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] An example of the worth of ontology

> development

> 

> Arun,

> 

> We have been developing a tool that takes in natural language, produces an

> Ontology, updates a dictionary, generates a "reader" application (to

> semantically search a natural language corpus) and produces a report with

> bibliography and hyperlinks. After 8 years, we are about to enter controlled

> beta testing now. Let me know if you are interested in a demo.

> 

> Chuck Rehberg, CTO

> Semantic Insights

> A Division of

> Trigent Software

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Arun

> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 3:32 PM

> To: Ontology Summit 2011 discussion

> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] An example of the worth of ontology

> development

> 

> Does anyone have any tools that go from raw data to produce Ontologies as

> output or even proto-ontologies as outputs that humans can then edit and

> refine?

> 

> On 3/2/11 12:50 PM, Jack Ring wrote:

>> Quite so.

>> That's why helping them understand their enterprise as a system, 

>> hopefully

> an intelligent system, gives them the perspective to grok the strange

> distinctions that ontologists need to make.

>> This starts with a little semantic modeling; then activity modeling of 

>> the

> problematic situation (customers, markets, competitors, etc., and Their

> customers, markets, competitors, etc.,); then formulating an intervention

> strategy for serving unmet, even unrecognized, market needs better than can

> competitors and rivals; then design/architecture of To Be enterprise; then

>> teasing out the infrastructure and modularization. All this must 

>> precede

> the development on ontology (because ontology is a major facet of

> infrastructure).

>> 

>> Ways of accomplishing intelligent enterprise systems architecting and

> engineering are being evovled.

>> 

>> Unfortunately the NOISE created by Business Process Management, 

>> Knowledge

> Management, Business Rules management, Enterprise Architecture Frameworks

> (for paint-by-numbers, i.e., ignorant, enterprises), etc., is precluding

> rapid development of this capability.

>> 

>> Meanwhile, there are already places that have recognized the need for

> intelligent infrastructure. These are the current  market targets for

> ontology insertion. In general, it is any enterprise or market wherein He

> Who Learns Fastest Wins. Specific examples are Military Intelligence,

> Business Intelligence, Conference Management (evolving to social network

> interlocutor), Learning Management (as modern education of youth is finally

> freed from government intervention), and Autonomous System engagement

> management. Personalized, Molecular-level medicine may become the Killer

> App.

>> 

>> Make sense?

>> 

>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:10 AM, John F. Sowa wrote:

>> 

>>> Jack and Mike,

>>> 

>>> I agree with that point, but I'd like to add some qualifications:

>>> 

>>> JR

>>>> The primary purpose of a semantic model is to facilitate knowledge 

>>>> exchange and choice making in a gaggle of humans in hopes of 

>>>> morphing the gaggle into a system. A key usage is to inform the 

>>>> development of an executable ontology, e.g., application software, 

>>>> for automation of information flow and decision. Another key purpose 

>>>> is to provide a basis for objective assessment of enterprise 

>>>> situation (aka evidence-based management).

>>> MU

>>>> Yes, this is the kind of thing I'm after.

>>> The primary qualification is that the "gaggle of humans" can only 

>>> agree on what they understand.  The people who work in a field can 

>>> all agree that a list of familiar words, as documented in their 

>>> familiar texts, cover their familiar subject matter.

>>> 

>>> But when ontologists start to axiomatize those terms in some arcane 

>>> notation based on some arcane distinctions about endurants, 

>>> perdurants, continuants, etc., all bets are off.

>>> 

>>> John

>>> 

>>> 

>>> _________________________________________________________________

>>> Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/

>>> Subscribe/Config:

> http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/

>>> Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>>> Community Files: 

>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/

>>> Community Wiki:

> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011

>>> Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/

>> 

>> _________________________________________________________________

>> Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/

>> Subscribe/Config:

> http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/

>> Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>> Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/

>> Community Wiki: 

>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011

>> Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/

>> 

> 

> 

> --

> WARNING: THIS EMAIL IS COVERED BY THE ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS PRIVACY ACT,

> 18 U.S.C. § 2510-2521 AND IS LEGALLY PRIVILEGED.  THE INFORMATION CONTAINED

> IN THIS MESSAGE AND THE ATTACHMENT, IF ANY, IS EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER

> APPLICABLE LAW.

> 

> 

> _________________________________________________________________

> Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/   

> Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/

> 

> Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/

> Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011

> Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ 

> 

> 

> _________________________________________________________________

> Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/   

> Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/

> 

> Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/

> Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011  

> Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ 

> 

> 

> 

> _________________________________________________________________

> Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/   

> Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/  

> Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/

> Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011  

> Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ 
    (04)

_________________________________________________________________
Msg Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/   
Subscribe/Config: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit/  
Unsubscribe: mailto:ontology-summit-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Community Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2011/
Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011  
Community Portal: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/     (05)
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>