Brand, This sounds interesting. Maybe we could chat about it sometime?
Cheers, George
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On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:55 PM, "Brand Niemann" <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Arun (and all), I have seen a demo of what Chuck has developed and was very
> impressed! Best regards, Brand
>
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> Arun,
>
> We have been developing a tool that takes in natural language, produces an
> Ontology, updates a dictionary, generates a "reader" application (to
> semantically search a natural language corpus) and produces a report with
> bibliography and hyperlinks. After 8 years, we are about to enter controlled
> beta testing now. Let me know if you are interested in a demo.
>
> Chuck Rehberg, CTO
> Semantic Insights
> A Division of
> Trigent Software
>
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> development
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> Does anyone have any tools that go from raw data to produce Ontologies as
> output or even proto-ontologies as outputs that humans can then edit and
> refine?
>
> On 3/2/11 12:50 PM, Jack Ring wrote:
>> Quite so.
>> That's why helping them understand their enterprise as a system,
>> hopefully
> an intelligent system, gives them the perspective to grok the strange
> distinctions that ontologists need to make.
>> This starts with a little semantic modeling; then activity modeling of
>> the
> problematic situation (customers, markets, competitors, etc., and Their
> customers, markets, competitors, etc.,); then formulating an intervention
> strategy for serving unmet, even unrecognized, market needs better than can
> competitors and rivals; then design/architecture of To Be enterprise; then
>> teasing out the infrastructure and modularization. All this must
>> precede
> the development on ontology (because ontology is a major facet of
> infrastructure).
>>
>> Ways of accomplishing intelligent enterprise systems architecting and
> engineering are being evovled.
>>
>> Unfortunately the NOISE created by Business Process Management,
>> Knowledge
> Management, Business Rules management, Enterprise Architecture Frameworks
> (for paint-by-numbers, i.e., ignorant, enterprises), etc., is precluding
> rapid development of this capability.
>>
>> Meanwhile, there are already places that have recognized the need for
> intelligent infrastructure. These are the current market targets for
> ontology insertion. In general, it is any enterprise or market wherein He
> Who Learns Fastest Wins. Specific examples are Military Intelligence,
> Business Intelligence, Conference Management (evolving to social network
> interlocutor), Learning Management (as modern education of youth is finally
> freed from government intervention), and Autonomous System engagement
> management. Personalized, Molecular-level medicine may become the Killer
> App.
>>
>> Make sense?
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:10 AM, John F. Sowa wrote:
>>
>>> Jack and Mike,
>>>
>>> I agree with that point, but I'd like to add some qualifications:
>>>
>>> JR
>>>> The primary purpose of a semantic model is to facilitate knowledge
>>>> exchange and choice making in a gaggle of humans in hopes of
>>>> morphing the gaggle into a system. A key usage is to inform the
>>>> development of an executable ontology, e.g., application software,
>>>> for automation of information flow and decision. Another key purpose
>>>> is to provide a basis for objective assessment of enterprise
>>>> situation (aka evidence-based management).
>>> MU
>>>> Yes, this is the kind of thing I'm after.
>>> The primary qualification is that the "gaggle of humans" can only
>>> agree on what they understand. The people who work in a field can
>>> all agree that a list of familiar words, as documented in their
>>> familiar texts, cover their familiar subject matter.
>>>
>>> But when ontologists start to axiomatize those terms in some arcane
>>> notation based on some arcane distinctions about endurants,
>>> perdurants, continuants, etc., all bets are off.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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