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Re: [ontology-summit] URIs for quantities, units and scales

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From: "Steve Ray" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:32:13 -0700
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Toby,
There's no question that UnitsML is central to this issue.    (01)

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Toby (Campus Services IT)
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] URIs for quantities, units and scales    (02)

Don't go too far down this road w/o looking into UnitsML.    (03)

JGI    (04)


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is but saying ... that he is wiser today than yesterday." -- Jonathan Swift    (05)

Toby Considine
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University of North Carolina
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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew West
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] URIs for quantities, units and scales    (07)

Dear John,    (08)

> 
> URIs aren't magic.  People have relied on paper to transmit
> and agree on meaning for many, many centuries.  Putting a pail
> of garbage at the end of a URI rainbow won't make it gold.
> 
> DL> I suggest that creating a self-consistent ontology will take
>  > time, but assigning URIs to quantities, units and scales will
>  > bring an immediate benefit. The URIs can be used without an
>  > ontology within existing data models.
> 
> If you don't do your homework in defining the meaning of any
> symbols at the end of that URI rainbow, it'll just be garbage.
> The GIGO principle for computer systems has not been repealed
> by the Semantic Web.    (09)

[MW] The homework has been done on units and measures. Engineers and
physicists are quite clear about what they mean for their purposes whether
or not they have defined that meaning in a formal ontology, so for their
purposes common identifiers and looking them up in a standard when necessary
works.    (010)

Regards    (011)

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