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From: "David Connelly - OAGi" <dmconnelly@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:34:24 -0400
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All,    (01)

I have a question for the group.  OAGi has built Release 2.01 of CCTS and
the Naming and Design Rules into OAGIS Release 9.X.  We are planning to
build a Release 10 of OAGIS to adopt the new CCTS and NDR 3.0.    (02)

We look at these as ontology technologies.    (03)

I wonder what others think?    (04)

Thanks,    (05)

David     (06)

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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Ray
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] URIs for quantities, units and scales    (07)

Toby,
There's no question that UnitsML is central to this issue.    (08)

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Toby (Campus Services IT)
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Don't go too far down this road w/o looking into UnitsML.    (010)

JGI    (011)


"A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which
is but saying ... that he is wiser today than yesterday." -- Jonathan Swift    (012)

Toby Considine
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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew West
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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] URIs for quantities, units and scales    (014)

Dear John,    (015)

> 
> URIs aren't magic.  People have relied on paper to transmit
> and agree on meaning for many, many centuries.  Putting a pail
> of garbage at the end of a URI rainbow won't make it gold.
> 
> DL> I suggest that creating a self-consistent ontology will take
>  > time, but assigning URIs to quantities, units and scales will
>  > bring an immediate benefit. The URIs can be used without an
>  > ontology within existing data models.
> 
> If you don't do your homework in defining the meaning of any
> symbols at the end of that URI rainbow, it'll just be garbage.
> The GIGO principle for computer systems has not been repealed
> by the Semantic Web.    (016)

[MW] The homework has been done on units and measures. Engineers and
physicists are quite clear about what they mean for their purposes whether
or not they have defined that meaning in a formal ontology, so for their
purposes common identifiers and looking them up in a standard when necessary
works.    (017)

Regards    (018)

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