On the education survey, it asked if my institution had an ontology
program or ontology-related courses. The next question asked what
academic program offered the ontology-related courses. It did not
seem possible on that survey, to say that more than one department or
academic program offered ontology-related courses. This seems to be a
serious shortcoming of the survey. (01)
Kathy (02)
On Feb 13, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Peter Yim wrote: (03)
> Matthew,
>
>
>> [MW] [The questions] seemed to me to have a somewhat grandiose and
>> unrealistic view of what ontology is and its place in the wider
>> world.
>
> [ppy] ... Not trying to be defensive here, but thanks for providing
> the chance to explain why we had this 3rd set - the Real-Time Delphi
> Study on the Future of Ontologists, their Education and the Field of
> Ontology
>
> As described under:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_Survey#nid28DS
> In this set, "being practical" wasn't part of the intent. While no one
> can really predict the future, a collective vision of "those who
> should know better" might just help us get a glimpse of what is in
> store for us in the future.
>
> As Alan Kay put it: "The best way to predict the future is to invent
> it." ... we are hoping that each of us here (as members of the expert
> panel in this RTDelphi study) can put our visionary hat on for a
> little bit, and share what future they *are* trying to invent for this
> field ... and, the collection of those thoughts may converge (or
> polarized, or whatever, ... we don't know until we are able to collect
> the thoughts) and should, at the least, be interesting to this
> community.
>
>
>> ... did not think the questions were particularly good.
>
> [ppy] they weren't supposed to be "questions" as much as they are
> statements to elicit reactions to "developments" of significance. The
> "developments" were essentially culled from an earlier community
> session we had (OntologySummit2010: Panel Session-1) - see:
>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_FutureDevelopments_Synthesis#nid25HJ
>
> Please just treat them as the issues that are framing the discussion,
> and the input boxes as the workspaces to which one may post their
> comments (in lieu of making mailing list posts to specific threads.)
>
>
> Thank you for your input. Really appreciate it. Do consider going in
> again, to review your responses and others' as they start to
> accumulate, and possibly tweak your opinion (as you deem fit) any time
> before the close of the study.
>
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>
> P.S. apologies for the user interface (which, recognizably, has room
> for improvement) ... but it's the content (and not the form) that is
> important. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx
> > wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>> Well I’ve had a go at the Delphi Questionnaire. I’m glad I waited
>> for others
>> to find and point out the issues filling it in.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also have to say that I did not think the questions were
>> particularly
>> good. They seemed to me to have a somewhat grandiose and
>> unrealistic view of
>> what ontology is and its place in the wider world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew West
>>
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>> Behalf Of
>> Steve Ray
>> Sent: 12 February 2010 19:30
>> To: ontology-summit-advisors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ontology-summit-advisors] Plea for filling out the surveys
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> We are sending this email to request that you
>> please respond
>> to the surveys that we have set up to support the Ontology Summit
>> 2010. We
>> are depending on the full participation of the advisory committee
>> so that we
>> have a valid set of requirements and training resources, in order
>> to produce
>> a quality recommendation by the end of the Summit. You have been
>> invited to
>> be on the advisory committee specifically because we believe you have
>> valuable insight on these matters, either on the requirements side,
>> or on
>> the training side, or sometimes both.
>>
>> We recognize how busy you all are, and appreciate
>> your
>> taking just a little of it on the surveys. The Real-time Delphi
>> survey in
>> particular is designed so that you can check back and see other
>> responses
>> between now and the closing (February 22nd) and update your own
>> should you
>> choose to do so – more like an asynchronous expert panel than a
>> survey.
>>
>>
>>
>> The questionnaires can be found at
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>>
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