Denise, Bob, Lisa et al., (01)
Great! ... I'll put this onto our 5/25 call agenda and will look
forward to discussing it then. (02)
Cheers. =ppy
-- (03)
On 5/15/06, dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Let's try for the following week - 25th. That way we can see if we can push
> the process a step or two further.
>
> Best regards,
> Denise (04)
> "Peter P. Yim"
> <peter.yim@cim3
> .com>
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> Re: [ontologizing] Re: [TaxoThesaurus]
> 05/15/2006 Ontolog Wiki Inventory
> 12:26 PM
>
>
> Please respond
> to
> Ontologizing-On
> tolog
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> ntolog.cim3.net
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Denise,
>
>
> > [DB] this Thursday ... cannot participate - but the three
> > of you can definitely go ahead and meet and I'll catch up
> > later.
>
> [ppy] Unfortunate ... how about the immediate following week
> (same time Thu 5/25)?
>
>
> > [DB] You are right about the spreadsheet - it seems that it
> > cut off about 202 lines (content objects) at the bottom.
> > I will go back and regenerate the export from the Coast site
> > map to include the last 202 objects.
>
> [ppy] hopefully, using, say, the .csv format may break us loose
> from the spreadsheet maximum number of rows constraint.
>
> Ref my earlier discussion (see:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontologizing/2006-05/msg00002.html#nid09
> ), I noticed on your inventory spreadsheet, you ARE inventorying
> all versions of a wiki page. Therefore, ref that discussion, you
> might consider just inventorying the 'current' version of each
> page, and leave the history behind.
>
> > [DB] > Re: shared file workspace - let me see if I can run
> > the Teragram concept extraction file against a remote
> > directory.
>
> [ppy] you have already captured the links in your inventory map
> now. Ref your spreadsheet
> <ontolog-cwe-inventory-map_dbedford_20060514a.xls> rows 22382 &
> below (showing our shared ./file/resource content), and, rows
> 25407 & below (showing our shared ./file/work content).
>
> The way we have it, any item that is dropped into the CWE -- i.e.
> discussion archives, wiki page or shred-files in the repository)
> are browser (http) accessible. Which means, you don't have to
> 'map' to a 'remote directory' ... as long as Teragram can extract
> via a web link, our content will be available (as it is already
> being served by apache over http.)
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
>
> dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote Mon, 15 May 2006 11:59:59 -0400:
> > Peter,
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have a KMWG Board Meeting this Thursday so cannot
>participate
> -
> > but the three of you can definitely go ahead and meet and I'll catch up
>later.
> >
> > You are right about the spreadsheet - it seems that it cut off about 202
>lines
> > (content objects) at the bottom. I will go back and regenerate the export
> from
> > the Coast site map to include the last 202 objects. Also, this is only to
> > Level 6 so anything lower in the WIKI will not be included.
> >
> > Re: shared file workspace - let me see if I can run the Teragram concept
> > extraction file against a remote directory. If I can, we don't need a
>second
> > store of the data. If I need a "local Bank"
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Denise
>
>
>
> > "Peter P. Yim"
>
> > <peter.yim@cim3
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> Subject
> > [ontologizing] Re: [TaxoThesaurus]
>
> > 05/15/2006 Ontolog Wiki Inventory
>
> > 11:40 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Please respond
>
> > to
>
> > Ontologizing-On
>
> > tolog
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> > <ontologizing@o
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> > ntolog.cim3.net
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> > >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Denise,
> >
> > 1. This is great!
> >
> > (a) Denise ... your plan sounds good.
> >
> > (b) we actually don't have a Invited Speaker or Scheduled
> > Discussion Event for Ontolog this Thursday (nor the next week).
> > Would be great if we devote, say, half the session, on
> > discussions relating to this project. Can you all make it to this
> > Thursday's (5/11 1:30~3:00pm EDT / 10:30am~12:00 PDT) call? And
> > next week's?
> >
> > 2. File content: at first glance -
> >
> > (a) I unzipped and opened up your spreadsheet file with my
> > OpenOffice application (I don't have MS Excel on my desktop
> > machine), and was only able to see up to row 65536. I have a
> > feeling this may not be the end of the content you have put
> > together. It seems that either you or I ran into a constraint
> > posed by either yours or my spreadsheet program.
> >
> > (b) I'll check (other versions of spreadsheet programs) too, but
> > would you check and see if you might be able to put the content
> > into a different file format (say, .csv) so that we can avoid
> > this limitation, and possibly make the file more portable too,
> > please Denise?
> >
> > 3. Ref. the attachment limitations ... Yes.
> >
> > (a) I renamed Denise' file to
> > <ontolog-cwe-inventory-map_dbedford_20060514a.zip> sand have done
> > uploading both the zip file and the unzipped .xls file. You will
> > be able to find them under:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/
> >
> > (b) the CWE is designed so that users can drag and drop their
> > shared file into the shared-file workspace via WebDAV (the web
> > distributed authoring and versioning protocol).
> >
> > (c) the instructions (a one time setup) to set oneself up for
> > this file upload can be found at:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolsCollaboration#nidAVL
> > ... please try it. It could be a bit tricky for some machines,
> > but I will be more than happy to walk the members of this team
> > through the setup (during one of our calls) in the near future,
> > if anyone wants it.
> >
> > (d) our shared-file workspace:
> >
> > > [DB] Peter do you think you could create the directory for
> > > us to work from?
> >
> > [ppy] Our workspace for this project (is already up), and they
> > are at:
> >
> > Wiki (collaborative authoring / shared display):
> >
> > Discussion workspace:
> > distribution-list: mailto:ontologizing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > discussion archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontologizing/
> >
> > Shared-file workspace:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/
> >
> > [ref:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologTaxoThesaurus#nidMU1 ]
> >
> > ... don't know if that answers your question, Denise?
> > (In particular, if the "shared-file workspace" directory the
> > "directory" you want to see created?
> >
> > Thanks & regards. =ppy
> > --
>
>
> > Bob Smith wrote Mon, 15 May 2006 07:50:29 -0700:
> >> Hi Denise,
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Your plans for next steps sounds reasonable to me;
> >>
> >> - I do not have immediate access to a crawler but I will check with a
>friend
> >> at Kayvium about the status of his software.
> >>
> >> - Lisa, Peter: any comments?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Bob
>
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:38 AM
> >> To: Peter P. Yim; Bob Smith; Lisa
> >> Subject: Ontolog Wiki Inventory
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Attached (at long last) is an inventory of the content of the Ontolog Wiki
> >> down to Level 6 in the tree structure. (See attached file: Ontolog Wiki
> >> Site Map.zip). The Ontology tree actually goes down 23 levels - across the
> >> full site
> >> - but after running the full scan it seemed that most of the content was at
> >> level 6 or above.
> >>
> >> It is about 15m, so I zipped it to get through any size ceilings you might
> >> have on your email. As it turns out the file is too large for the list so
> >> I'm sending it to your direct email addresses.
> >>
> >> Here's how to reach the contents of the inventory:
> >>
> >> Column A = path to the file
> >> Column B = File Name
> >> Column C = File Extension/Type
> >> Column D = Title if there is one available Column E = Author where
>available
> >> Column F = Last Modified Date Column G = File Size Column H = downloading
> >> speed (we use this to check for slow pages/content) Column I = Outbound
>Link
> >> Column J = External Links
> >>
> >> Suggested next steps:
> >>
> >> the team - Lisa especially - reviews the inventory to decide what kinds
> >> of
> >> content we will cover in our ontologizing exercise
> >> we make a copy of the inventory wihch reflects our selections, and
> >> extract
> >> the content to be ontologized from the wiki. Bob or Lisa - do you know
> >> of a
> >> crawler we could use to collect the content? If not, I can do this but
> >> it
> >> might take me a bit longer since I'll have to work at it in bits/pieces
> >> of
> >> time or ask a colleague here to recommend a tool;
> >> store the content in a directory - Peter do you think you could create
> >> the
> >> directory for us to work from?
> >> once we have the actual content in one/more directories, I'll proceed to
> >> run
> >> the concept extraction and build the categorizer, summarizer
> >>
> >> Does this sound like a plan? Please let me know if you want me to run the
> >> scan
> >> deeper - Peter can probably tell at a glance what is missing from the
> >> inventory.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Denise
>
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