Hi Lisa, Denise, Peter, and Patrick: (01)
Welcome aboard, Patrick Heinig! I really enjoyed talking with you about the
general background of the Taxo_Thesaurus project early Friday afternoon. (02)
I just returned home today after exploring a business process modeling
opportunity, so apologies for a late response to Lisa and Denise's
exchanges. (03)
Lisa, I fully understand the challenge of learning to work in a new
organization. Lots of semantic ambiguity.... (04)
Denise, your suggestions are very practical. Perhaps we can chat via email
to scope the next few steps, and raise a few questions for discussion at
Thursday's Ontolog Session regarding the inventory and the status of the
concept extraction efforts. (05)
On our Ontolog TaxoThesaurus I have suggested sketching a visualization of
Ontolog. I have an initial taxonomy created using a free Mind Map tool which
I will post today, Sunday, after updating Peter's suggestions. (06)
I look forward to your thoughts and comments. (07)
Cheers, (08)
Bob (09)
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Denise, (011)
Thanks for jumping in with your suggestion! That sounds like the most
reasonable thing to do at this point. I was hoping that my time would open
up after a few months. However, due to shifting priorities, my time will is
becoming even more limited. I would love to comment and will try to do as
much as I can. I appreciate your understanding around the overscheduling. I
know that this is common across enterprises. Since I'm new to my position, I
couldn't tell how much was just "being new" and how much was actually built
into the workload of the position, which is new and underspecified. (012)
:) Lisa (013)
--- dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: (014)
> Lisa,
>
> Would it be ok with you if I took your thoughts on the content - from
> your initial comments through your presentation - and used them to try to
segment the
> content in the inventory? Maybe we can move this forward in a way that
allows
> you to comments and observe, rather than to be actively engaged in
'doing'. I
> understand the overscheduling issues.
>
> Best regards,
> Denise
>
>
>
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> Hi all,
>
> I apologize for not being a more active participant in this creation.
> Due to my current work situation, my time is extremely limited. I've
> only been in my job for two months, but already I have been
> over-scheduled and over-committed. I thought it would improve, but it
> has not. I need to re-set your expectations regarding time that I will
> be able to devote to this project. I will do what I can, but I believe
> it will be, regrettably, much less than what I initially anticipated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lisa
> --- "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Denise,
> >
> > 1. This is great!
> >
> > (a) Denise ... your plan sounds good.
> >
> > (b) we actually don't have a Invited Speaker or Scheduled Discussion
> > Event for Ontolog this Thursday (nor the next week).
> > Would be great if we devote, say, half the session, on discussions
> > relating to this project. Can you all make it to this Thursday's
> > (5/11 1:30~3:00pm EDT / 10:30am~12:00 PDT) call? And next week's?
> >
> > 2. File content: at first glance -
> >
> > (a) I unzipped and opened up your spreadsheet file with my
> > OpenOffice application (I don't have MS Excel on my desktop
> > machine), and was only able to see up to row 65536. I have a feeling
> > this may not be the end of the content you have put together. It
> > seems that either you or I ran into a constraint posed by either
> > yours or my spreadsheet program.
> >
> > (b) I'll check (other versions of spreadsheet programs) too, but
> > would you check and see if you might be able to put the content into
> > a different file format (say, .csv) so that we can avoid this
> > limitation, and possibly make the file more portable too, please
> > Denise?
> >
> > 3. Ref. the attachment limitations ... Yes.
> >
> > (a) I renamed Denise' file to
> > <ontolog-cwe-inventory-map_dbedford_20060514a.zip> sand have done
> > uploading both the zip file and the unzipped .xls file. You will be
> > able to find them under:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/
> >
> > (b) the CWE is designed so that users can drag and drop their shared
> > file into the shared-file workspace via WebDAV (the web distributed
> > authoring and versioning protocol).
> >
> > (c) the instructions (a one time setup) to set oneself up for this
> > file upload can be found at:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolsCollaboration#nidAVL
> > ... please try it. It could be a bit tricky for some machines, but I
> > will be more than happy to walk the members of this team through the
> > setup (during one of our calls) in the near future, if anyone wants
> > it.
> >
> > (d) our shared-file workspace:
> >
> > > [DB] Peter do you think you could create the directory for > us
> > to work from?
> >
> > [ppy] Our workspace for this project (is already up), and they are
> > at:
> >
> > Wiki (collaborative authoring / shared display):
> >
> > Discussion workspace:
> > distribution-list: mailto:ontologizing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > discussion archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontologizing/
> >
> > Shared-file workspace:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/
> >
> > [ref:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologTaxoThesaurus#nidMU1
> > ]
> >
> > ... don't know if that answers your question, Denise?
> > (In particular, if the "shared-file workspace" directory the
> > "directory" you want to see created?
> >
> > Thanks & regards. =ppy
> > --
> >
> >
> > Bob Smith wrote Mon, 15 May 2006 07:50:29 -0700:
> > > Hi Denise,
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Your plans for next steps sounds reasonable to me;
> > >
> > > - I do not have immediate access to a crawler but I will check
> > > with a friend at Kayvium about the status of his software.
> > >
> > > - Lisa, Peter: any comments?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Bob
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:38 AM
> > > To: Peter P. Yim; Bob Smith; Lisa
> > > Subject: Ontolog Wiki Inventory
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > Attached (at long last) is an inventory of the content of the
> > > Ontolog Wiki down to Level 6 in the tree structure. (See attached
> > > file: Ontolog Wiki Site Map.zip). The Ontology tree actually goes
> > > down 23 levels - across the full site
> > > - but after running the full scan it seemed that most of the
> > > content was at level 6 or above.
> > >
> > > It is about 15m, so I zipped it to get through any size ceilings
> > > you might have on your email. As it turns out the file is too
> > > large for the list so I'm sending it to your direct email addresses.
> > >
> > > Here's how to reach the contents of the inventory:
> > >
> > > Column A = path to the file
> > > Column B = File Name
> > > Column C = File Extension/Type
> > > Column D = Title if there is one available Column E = Author where
> > > available Column F = Last Modified Date Column G = File Size
> > > Column H = downloading speed (we use this to check for slow
> > > pages/content) Column I = Outbound Link Column J = External Links
> > >
> > > Suggested next steps:
> > >
> > > the team - Lisa especially - reviews the inventory to decide
> > > what kinds of
> > > content we will cover in our ontologizing exercise
> > > we make a copy of the inventory wihch reflects our selections,
> > > and extract
> > > the content to be ontologized from the wiki. Bob or Lisa - do
> > > you know of a
> > > crawler we could use to collect the content? If not, I can do
this but
> > > it
> > > might take me a bit longer since I'll have to work at it in
> > > bits/pieces of
> > > time or ask a colleague here to recommend a tool;
> > > store the content in a directory - Peter do you think you could
> > > create the
> > > directory for us to work from?
> > > once we have the actual content in one/more directories, I'll
> > > proceed to run
> > > the concept extraction and build the categorizer, summarizer
>
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