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RE: [ontologizing] Re: [TaxoThesaurus] Ontolog Wiki Inventory

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From: "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:38:55 -0400
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All, I've not used it but I know the MKSearch tool is available and
they have a crawler as part of it. See: http://www.mksearch.mkdoc.org/.    (01)


Leo
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Subject: Re: [ontologizing] Re: [TaxoThesaurus] Ontolog Wiki Inventory    (03)

Peter,    (04)

Unfortunately, I have a KMWG Board Meeting this Thursday so cannot
participate -
but the three of you can definitely go ahead and meet and I'll catch up
later.    (05)

You are right about the spreadsheet - it seems that it cut off about
202 lines
(content objects) at the bottom.   I will go back and regenerate the
export from
the Coast site map to include the last 202 objects.   Also, this is
only to
Level 6 so anything lower in the WIKI will not be included.    (06)

Re:  shared file workspace - let me see if I can run the Teragram
concept
extraction file against a remote directory.   If I can, we don't need a
second
store of the data.  If I need a "local Bank"    (07)

Best regards,
Denise    (08)




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Denise,    (024)

1. This is great!    (025)

(a) Denise ... your plan sounds good.    (026)

(b) we actually don't have a Invited Speaker or Scheduled
Discussion Event for Ontolog this Thursday (nor the next week).
Would be great if we devote, say, half the session, on
discussions relating to this project. Can you all make it to this
Thursday's (5/11 1:30~3:00pm EDT / 10:30am~12:00 PDT) call? And
next week's?    (027)

2. File content: at first glance -    (028)

(a) I unzipped and opened up your spreadsheet file with my
OpenOffice application (I don't have MS Excel on my desktop
machine), and was only able to see up to row 65536. I have a
feeling this may not be the end of the content you have put
together. It seems that either you or I ran into a constraint
posed by either yours or my spreadsheet program.    (029)

(b) I'll check (other versions of spreadsheet programs) too, but
would you check and see if you might be able to put the content
into a different file format (say, .csv) so that we can avoid
this limitation, and possibly make the file more portable too,
please Denise?    (030)

3. Ref. the attachment limitations ... Yes.    (031)

(a) I renamed Denise' file to
<ontolog-cwe-inventory-map_dbedford_20060514a.zip> sand have done
uploading both the zip file and the unzipped .xls file. You will
be able to find them under:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/    (032)

(b) the CWE is designed so that users can drag and drop their
shared file into the shared-file workspace via WebDAV (the web
distributed authoring and versioning protocol).    (033)

(c) the instructions (a one time setup) to set oneself up for
this file upload can be found at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolsCollaboration#nidAVL
... please try it. It could be a bit tricky for some machines,
but I will be more than happy to walk the members of this team
through the setup (during one of our calls) in the near future,
if anyone wants it.    (034)

(d) our shared-file workspace:    (035)

 > [DB] Peter do you think you could create the directory for
 > us to work from?    (036)

[ppy] Our workspace for this project (is already up), and they
are at:    (037)

Wiki (collaborative authoring / shared display):    (038)

Discussion workspace:
   distribution-list: mailto:ontologizing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   discussion archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontologizing/    (039)

Shared-file workspace:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/    (040)

[ref:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologTaxoThesaurus#nidMU1 ]    (041)

... don't know if that answers your question, Denise?
(In particular, if the "shared-file workspace" directory the
"directory" you want to see created?    (042)

Thanks & regards.  =ppy
--    (043)


Bob Smith wrote Mon, 15 May 2006 07:50:29 -0700:
> Hi Denise,
>
> Thanks!
>
> Your plans for next steps sounds reasonable to me;
>
> - I do not have immediate access to a crawler but I will check with a
friend
> at Kayvium about the status of his software.
>
> - Lisa, Peter: any comments?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob    (044)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:38 AM
> To: Peter P. Yim; Bob Smith; Lisa
> Subject: Ontolog Wiki Inventory
>
> All,
>
> Attached (at long last) is an inventory of the content of the Ontolog
Wiki
> down to Level 6 in the tree structure.  (See attached file: Ontolog
Wiki
> Site Map.zip).  The Ontology tree actually goes down 23 levels -
across the
> full site
> - but after running the full scan it seemed that most of the content
was at
> level 6 or above.
>
> It is about 15m, so I zipped it to get through any size ceilings you
might
> have on your email.  As it turns out the file is too large for the
list so
> I'm sending it to your direct email addresses.
>
> Here's how to reach the contents of the inventory:
>
> Column A = path to the file
> Column B = File Name
> Column C = File Extension/Type
> Column D = Title if there is one available Column E = Author where
available
> Column F = Last Modified Date Column G = File Size Column H =
downloading
> speed (we use this to check for slow pages/content) Column I =
Outbound Link
> Column J = External Links
>
> Suggested next steps:
>
>    the team - Lisa especially - reviews the inventory to decide what
kinds
> of
>    content we will cover in our ontologizing exercise
>    we make a copy of the inventory wihch reflects our selections, and
> extract
>    the content to be ontologized from the wiki.  Bob or Lisa - do you
know
> of a
>    crawler we could use to collect the content?   If not, I can do
this but
> it
>    might take me a bit longer since I'll have to work at it in
bits/pieces
> of
>    time or ask a colleague here to recommend a tool;
>    store the content in a directory - Peter do you think you could
create
> the
>    directory for us to work from?
>    once we have the actual content in one/more directories, I'll
proceed to
> run
>    the concept extraction and build the categorizer, summarizer
>
> Does this sound like a plan?   Please let me know if you want me to
run the
> scan
> deeper - Peter can probably tell at a glance what is missing from the
> inventory.
>
> Best regards,
> Denise
>
>
>    (045)

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