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Re: [ontologizing] Re: [TaxoThesaurus] Ontolog Wiki Inventory - time

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From: dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:51:27 -0400
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Lisa,    (01)

Would it be ok with you if I took your thoughts on the content - from your
initial comments through your presentation - and used them to try to segment the
content in the inventory?   Maybe we can move this forward in a way that allows
you to comments and observe, rather than to be actively engaged in 'doing'.   I
understand the overscheduling issues.    (02)

Best regards,
Denise    (03)




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Hi all,    (06)

I apologize for not being a more active participant in this creation. Due to my
current work
situation, my time is extremely limited. I've only been in my job for two
months, but already I
have been over-scheduled and over-committed. I thought it would improve, but it
has not. I need to
re-set your expectations regarding time that I will be able to devote to this
project. I will do
what I can, but I believe it will be, regrettably, much less than what I
initially anticipated.    (07)

Sincerely,    (08)

Lisa
--- "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:    (09)

> Denise,
>
> 1. This is great!
>
> (a) Denise ... your plan sounds good.
>
> (b) we actually don't have a Invited Speaker or Scheduled
> Discussion Event for Ontolog this Thursday (nor the next week).
> Would be great if we devote, say, half the session, on
> discussions relating to this project. Can you all make it to this
> Thursday's (5/11 1:30~3:00pm EDT / 10:30am~12:00 PDT) call? And
> next week's?
>
> 2. File content: at first glance -
>
> (a) I unzipped and opened up your spreadsheet file with my
> OpenOffice application (I don't have MS Excel on my desktop
> machine), and was only able to see up to row 65536. I have a
> feeling this may not be the end of the content you have put
> together. It seems that either you or I ran into a constraint
> posed by either yours or my spreadsheet program.
>
> (b) I'll check (other versions of spreadsheet programs) too, but
> would you check and see if you might be able to put the content
> into a different file format (say, .csv) so that we can avoid
> this limitation, and possibly make the file more portable too,
> please Denise?
>
> 3. Ref. the attachment limitations ... Yes.
>
> (a) I renamed Denise' file to
> <ontolog-cwe-inventory-map_dbedford_20060514a.zip> sand have done
> uploading both the zip file and the unzipped .xls file. You will
> be able to find them under:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/
>
> (b) the CWE is designed so that users can drag and drop their
> shared file into the shared-file workspace via WebDAV (the web
> distributed authoring and versioning protocol).
>
> (c) the instructions (a one time setup) to set oneself up for
> this file upload can be found at:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolsCollaboration#nidAVL
> ... please try it. It could be a bit tricky for some machines,
> but I will be more than happy to walk the members of this team
> through the setup (during one of our calls) in the near future,
> if anyone wants it.
>
> (d) our shared-file workspace:
>
>  > [DB] Peter do you think you could create the directory for
>  > us to work from?
>
> [ppy] Our workspace for this project (is already up), and they
> are at:
>
> Wiki (collaborative authoring / shared display):
>
> Discussion workspace:
>    distribution-list: mailto:ontologizing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    discussion archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontologizing/
>
> Shared-file workspace:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologizingOntolog/TaxoThesaurus/
>
> [ref:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologTaxoThesaurus#nidMU1 ]
>
> ... don't know if that answers your question, Denise?
> (In particular, if the "shared-file workspace" directory the
> "directory" you want to see created?
>
> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> --
>
>
> Bob Smith wrote Mon, 15 May 2006 07:50:29 -0700:
> > Hi Denise,
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Your plans for next steps sounds reasonable to me;
> >
> > - I do not have immediate access to a crawler but I will check with a friend
> > at Kayvium about the status of his software.
> >
> > - Lisa, Peter: any comments?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bob
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dbedford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:38 AM
> > To: Peter P. Yim; Bob Smith; Lisa
> > Subject: Ontolog Wiki Inventory
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Attached (at long last) is an inventory of the content of the Ontolog Wiki
> > down to Level 6 in the tree structure.  (See attached file: Ontolog Wiki
> > Site Map.zip).  The Ontology tree actually goes down 23 levels - across the
> > full site
> > - but after running the full scan it seemed that most of the content was at
> > level 6 or above.
> >
> > It is about 15m, so I zipped it to get through any size ceilings you might
> > have on your email.  As it turns out the file is too large for the list so
> > I'm sending it to your direct email addresses.
> >
> > Here's how to reach the contents of the inventory:
> >
> > Column A = path to the file
> > Column B = File Name
> > Column C = File Extension/Type
> > Column D = Title if there is one available Column E = Author where available
> > Column F = Last Modified Date Column G = File Size Column H = downloading
> > speed (we use this to check for slow pages/content) Column I = Outbound Link
> > Column J = External Links
> >
> > Suggested next steps:
> >
> >    the team - Lisa especially - reviews the inventory to decide what kinds
> > of
> >    content we will cover in our ontologizing exercise
> >    we make a copy of the inventory wihch reflects our selections, and
> > extract
> >    the content to be ontologized from the wiki.  Bob or Lisa - do you know
> > of a
> >    crawler we could use to collect the content?   If not, I can do this but
> > it
> >    might take me a bit longer since I'll have to work at it in bits/pieces
> > of
> >    time or ask a colleague here to recommend a tool;
> >    store the content in a directory - Peter do you think you could create
> > the
> >    directory for us to work from?
> >    once we have the actual content in one/more directories, I'll proceed to
> > run
> >    the concept extraction and build the categorizer, summarizer
> >
> > Does this sound like a plan?   Please let me know if you want me to run the
> > scan
> > deeper - Peter can probably tell at a glance what is missing from the
> > inventory.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Denise
> >
> >
> >
>
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