Ed, (01)
I agree with your email below.
You wisely used the word perhaps.
I believe that the email may need a few additions and then the perhaps can go. (02)
The data science field did, in my opinion, not start with Ted Codd in 1970, but
was started 7 years earlier by Charles Bachman in 1963. (03)
It was Charles Bachman with IDS (Integrated Data Store) that made it in 1963
for the first time realistic to have real time software support for business
transactions.
This was a fundamental step forward.
IDS was later also the basis for the Codasyl DDL and DML. Charles made it
possible to navigate through a network of encoded facts, called records and
(Codasyl) sets. (04)
Ted Codd added to this new dimension a useful interrogation capability, based
on FOL. (05)
I also want to add that Michael Senko (see his DIAM publications) contributed
substantially to the fundamentals of data science in the early seventies as
well as Bill Kent, with his book Data and Reality. (06)
Michael en Bill were members of IFIP 2.6 at that time. (07)
Sjir Nijssen (08)
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From: Barkmeyer, Edward J <edward.barkmeyer@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-trustee] Looking to the Future of Data Science -
NYTimes.com - 2014.08.27
To: ONTOLOG Board of Trustees <ontolog-trustee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> (011)
John, (012)
I don't think that is fair. Anyone I know or knew in the field has long
thought that "data science" is the term for the computer science associated
with information management. Into the early 1980s, the problem was always in
getting the 'computer science' gang (ACM in
particular) to recognize that there was a computer science aspect to
information management systems; it wasn't just "management information systems"
and "database design" and other such "software practices". (013)
As the basic theory became recognized as theory and became generally
understood, the advancements in data sciences moved toward information
modeling, knowledge discovery and "data logics". Unfortunately, beginning
about 15 years ago, the real illusion of progress -- XML and RDF data stores --
grew hundreds of would-be computer scientists building "new" information stores
and database systems, with no knowledge of the data sciences, and therefore
reinventing good and bad ideas from a 30-year literature they didn't read. (As
Adrian Walker observed about 10 years ago, for most CS/Informatics students,
there is no computer science literature that predates PDF.) (014)
So it is merely high time that ACM recognized that the term "data science"
applies to a broad and respected field of computer science that has been in
existence for perhaps 45 years (Codd, 1970), and has been called "data science"
by many of its teachers and practitioners for the last 25. This is not about
renaming the field every 5 years; it is about realizing that the field has a
name. (015)
-Ed (016)
P.S. I owe my respect for the data sciences to Stanley Y.W. Su at U.
Florida and Gio Wiederhold at Stanford. (017)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-trustee-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-trustee- bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F
> Sowa
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:36 PM
> To: ontolog-trustee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-trustee] Looking to the Future of Data Science -
> NYTimes.com - 2014.08.27
>
> On 8/28/2014 10:33 PM, Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
> > I had been half-afraid that Etzioni (of the Allen Institute for AI)
> > was going to be going the usual way of Big Data. I'm glad to see he's not.
>
> But note the first sentence of the article:
>
> NY Times
> > The Association for Computing Machinery, a leading professional
> > association in computer science, is this week holding its annual
> > conference focused on what we're now calling data science - though
> > the ACM still clings to the label adopted when the yearly gatherings
> > began in 1998, Knowledge Discovery and Data Mining.
>
> That's the fundamental principle for creating the illusion of progress:
> Change the name of the field every decade.
>
> Then you can claim "Look how much we've achieved since the founding of
> the field, less than 10 years ago."
>
> John
>
>
>
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