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Re: [ontolog-forum] What the difference re., Data Dictionary, Ontology,

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:04:59 -0500
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On 2/15/14 5:25 PM, David Eddy wrote:
Kingsley -

On Feb 15, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

 What would be the value?

Keeping the utility of the legacy system alive without going down the futile "rip and replace" path. 

That's most reasonable.


I'm in strong agreement that "rip & replace"—which comes in many guises—while inherently appealing (of course I want a new Ferrari) & is often disastrous.


All I've been trying to get out of you is the admission you're interested in the data from systems, but not the systems themselves.

An application (which you refer to as system) is comprised of data. An application orchestrates data state transitions. The data that drives the application is what I am interested in, not the programming language runtime constrained (and confined) code. 


I was hoping that as a long shot what you do might be useful for coping with legacy systems.

What we do enable the continued use of legacy without making them victims of futile "rip and replace" adventures.



I think we as an industry have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt we can produce plenty of data.  How we maintain legacy systems going forward is a different challenge. 

The systems (what I call applications) can be useful for much longer if new generations of tools are provided with access to their data. Remember, SOA (Service Oriented Architecture) and Web Services (SOAP or those offering RESTful interaction patterns) all provide mechanisms for exposing application (or system) functions, procedures, and modules to external tools. That's how you plug legacy software in lego-like fashion into new systems and infrastructure.


For me a major issue is the looming departure of the SMEs (subject matter experts).

They aren't going anywhere. The issue is that that need forums and platforms that enable them participate in the broader discourse. As I said in my prior post: today, the discourse is overly dominated by the views of programmers and marketeers.

I was hoping there might be some useful tricks in your kit bag, but I think we agree your focus & my focus are in different ends of the spectrum.

I don't know that they are as misaligned as you assume. We work with open standards based interfaces for enabling the incorporation of new and emerging technologies with minimum disruption (if any) to what exists. That's our fundamental reason for existence, at OpenLink Software.


Kingsley

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