Hi Frank,
Thank you for sharing your experience. The implications of your experience for the industry is depressing but it contrasts with my experience. I started my career in a consultancy (a large one) as a developer (enabled me to work across different sectors and business functions) and moved on to developing corporate data/information models. I currently manage an enterprise architecture programme. I have therefore developed a variety of skills along the way that span the silo (data / software design divide). Does this make me an exception? I don't think so. Along the way, I have worked with colleagues who had a variety of skills across the data and software divide, also.
I suspect that factors like the size of the organisation, consultancy or end user environment influence the opportunities to learn and in addition, the personal interests of the IT person often influence what skills they acquire. Different environments offer different levels of opportunities to obtain a multiplicity of IT experience. This type of opportunity has been linked to job satisfaction.People have been known to move across different organisations to develop other skills (and to get more money of course).
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:44:27 -0500 From: Frank.Guerino@xxxxxxxxx To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] What the difference re., Data Dictionary, Ontology, and Vocabulary? Hello Segund,
The last sentence is not an assumption but based on about 30 years of managing, directing, and interacting with Data Designers, Modelers, Architects, Engineers, and Admins. I've been fortunate enough to work in many industries with some of the biggest names in each of those industries (both people and companies) and have rarely found cases where Data people had the experience necessary to design and implement complex systems that required far more to be considered than just Data. Again, it doesn't mean exceptions don't exist. They're just rare. I've personally found that most teams of Data Architects, Designers, Modelers and Database Engineers & Admins usually know how to model and tune Data, define Integrations, build stored procedures, and not much more, all based on requirements given to them. They would almost never, for example, be the people who could design and implement complex parallel computing grids that drive and leverage such models.
My Best,
Frank
The last sentence is an assumption which is often not true. Problems about role classifications and actual capability of individuals.
Frank Guerino < Frank.Guerino@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi David,
Broader artifacts are usually created or driven by those that have a bigger picture perspective of things, like Systems Engineers, Enterprise Architects, Application Architects/Designers, etc. Remember, data is only a small piece of a broader system and
most Data Architects/Designers/Engineers/Database Admins/etc. are not trained to deal with the broader/bigger picture. For example, an Application Designer can design a complete system that includes Data (its definitions, structures, flows, interactions,
conversions, etc.). However, a Data person rarely can do the reverse.
My Best,
Frank
From: David Eddy < deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:18 PM To: Frank Guerino < Frank.Guerino@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] What the difference re., Data Dictionary, Ontology, and Vocabulary?
Frank -
On Feb 13, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Frank Guerino wrote: No, not to my knowledge. Data Architects, Designers, and Modelers usually only create Dictionaries as a means of "defining" data through its traits.
I'm speechless.
I wonder who's responsible for the other systems artifacts... systems, programs, schema, etc? _________________________________________________________________
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