On 2 Feb 2013, at 19:56, Kingsley Idehen wrote: (01)
> On 2/2/13 12:48 PM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
>> Hello Kingsley,
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:05:23PM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>> When I speak of super keys I am referring to dbms, operating system, and
>>> application agnostic foreign keys. These keys resolve to descriptors
>>> that describe of their referents. The descriptors are viewable via your
>>> browser. You can use said keys to share data with anyone that has access
>>> to a browser.
>> The follow your nose feature of LOD is the one you are mentioning most often
>> in your visionary enthusiasm and this is what irritates me.
>
> The follow-your-nose pattern is how everyone uses the Web today. What do you
>do with a hyperlink that you encounter in a Web page? You either follow it or
>move on, subject to curiosity and relevance factor.
>
>
>> IMO, this is the
>> feature that has been exploited least so far. In the applications I have
>seen,
>> a human has made sense of a limited number of properties and classes from a
>> small or big number of data sources and wrote code that implicitly contains
>> this knowledge.
>
> What you don't seem to realize is that the Web is just a contemporary vehicle
>for what people have done naturally with computers since the advent of
>computing, and by that I include non silicon based computing.
>
>>
>> Of course, follow your nose is of some help for an aggregator but can you
>> show me a useful semantic web application that uses follow your nose and is
>> not a crawler or semantic web browser ?
>
> Yes, but you will only appreciate this point if you put Semantic Web hype
>aside and return back to the basic pattern of Web exploitation via HTML pages.
>In addition, what purpose does a foreign key serve in an RDBMS? You can't
>appreciate that and then question the utility of hyperlink based super keys,
>you just can't do that.
>
> Super Keys are the name of the game here. That's what the Web delivers at
>Internet-scale.
>>
>> I am all for people putting their data online and RDF is a wonderful data
>> exchange format but breaking all silos and throwing everything together means
>> ignoring context (another aspect of a silo, see Hans Polzers mail). However -
>> I appreciate your effort to make a big part of LOD searchable with the LOD
>> cache - this effort is important.
>
> The problem is that somehow, which is always the case with hype, the Semantic
>Web Project was seen as a "silver bullet". The only thing that's demonstrably
>close to a "silver bullet" is the World Wide Web itself.
>
> When it comes to the silo futility issue, the World Wide Web of HTML based
>content already demonstrates my fundamental point :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Brunnbauer
>>
>
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