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Re: [ontolog-forum] Knowledge graphs by Google and Facebook

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:24:41 -0500
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On 1/21/13 12:04 AM, John F Sowa wrote:
> Kingsley and Len,
>
> I want to emphasize that theoretical issues and practical issues are
> *both* important.  The best combination is to have developers who
> understand both theory and practice.
>
> KI
>> I only disagree with John when he pitches Google, Facebook etc..
>> as examples of companies that have disregarded the essence of the
>> Semantic Web vision etc.. Likewise, when he pits SQL against SPARQL :-)
> Two points:
>
>    1. I consider Tim B-L as somebody who has a good background in both
>       theory and practice.  I have more sympathy with his vision than
>       I have with some of the academics who lack his experience.    (01)

Yes, I agree.    (02)

>
>    2. Re SPARQL and SQL:  I prefer logic-based notations like Datalog
>       to either one of them, as notations.  But I just want to emphasize
>       that you can use many different notations (SPARQL, SQL, Datalog,
>       controlled NLs, conceptual graphs, etc., etc.) with many different
>       methods for storing the data.    (03)

Yes, of course.    (04)

>
> LY
>> I disagree with characterization of *semantics* of SQL as purely
>> theoretical issue with no significant practical implications...
> As I said, theory and practice are both important.  In any case,
> there are many, many different combinations of notations, logical
> expressiveness, and storage methods that have different kinds of
> tradeoffs for different kinds of applications.
>
> The worst policy is to make decisions based on one-line slogans
> about complicated issues such as decidability, expressive power,
> notations, storage methods, CWA, OWA, etc.    (05)

Amen!    (06)

>
> John
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Regards,    (09)

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