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From: Michael Brunnbauer <brunni@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:12:56 +0100
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Hello Ed,    (01)

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:51:28AM -0500, Barkmeyer, Edward J wrote:
> At the risk of sounding like an old pedagogue, you might consider reading a 
>Ted Codd paper from about 1980 on the possible interpretations of Null.  
> My recollection is that he identified at least 4 possible interpretations:
>  1) No value is meaningful (the property does not apply to things with 
>whatever other properties are documented)
>      Example: a person whose marital status is "single" does not have a value 
>for "spouse"
>  2) No value in this instance (the thing does not have an instance of this 
>property)
>      Example: a person may have no value for "mobile phone number" (by not 
>having the service)
>  3) The value should exist but is not known (no one entered this datum)
>      Example: a missing "date of birth"
>  4) Whether there is a value is unknown
> And there is a further state that we now sometimes see:
>   5) The value has been redacted.   It may be in the database, but it is not 
>in the query result, because the requester does not have the authority to ask 
>for it (in this case).
> 
> And there may well be others.  "Null" is a Humpty Dumpty word.    (02)

This Humpty Dumpty word seems to have a lot of use cases. Looks quite useful 
to me (and has been in RDB projects).    (03)

Do current RDBs actually behave differently regarding Null ? Otherwise I would
not see any problem. I don't care a bit about semantics as long as my tool has
a well defined behavior.    (04)

Regards,    (05)

Michael Brunnbauer    (06)

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