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Re: [ontolog-forum] doing standards [was - Re: Webby objects]

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From: "Barkmeyer, Edward J" <edward.barkmeyer@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:21:49 -0500
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Matthew West wrote:
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Dear Ed,    (02)

> [EJB] As Eliot Kinder, one of the Hypertext gurus, once put it:  "It
> all comes down to people talking to people, no matter how much cool
> technology we throw at it."    (03)

MW: I think you mean Eliot Kimber (certainly sounds like him).    (04)

[EJB] Thank you for the correction.  Yes, I meant Eliot Kimber.  (In my old 
age, my memory for names is fading. :-()    (05)

My approach to disambiguating word senses is to add qualifying terms to
disambiguate the meanings. So for example, "data" has a handful of different
definitions, one of which is:    (06)

d.1.d pl. The quantities, characters, or symbols on which operations are
performed by computers and other automatic equipment, and which may be
stored or transmitted in the form of electrical signals, records on magnetic
tape or punched cards, etc.    (07)

So instead of just using this definition I would call it say "computer
data". There is a trade off here between clarity and verbosity, but I know
which side of that compromise I wish to be. You can use this in other areas
to distinguish between say accounting asset and maintenance asset etc.    (08)

[EJB] I agree that this is a useful way to disambiguate homonyms.  But the 
problems we have encountered are thornier:
- The community does not, perhaps refuses to, recognize the concept if you 
don't use the their term for it
- Disagreement among members of the community about the relationship of terms 
to concepts, e.g. 'class' is a synonym for 'type', or a specialization of 
'type', or a reference to  extension. If you use 'extensional class', you are 
unlikely to achieve wider understanding.  Part of the community says 
"oxymoron", and another part asks if you are talking about types whose 
instances are aggregates.      (09)

Best,
-Ed    (010)

Regards    (011)

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